Flashermac Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 Government agents can sneak onto your property in the middle of the night, put a GPS device on the bottom of your car and keep track of everywhere you go. [color:red]This doesn't violate your Fourth Amendment rights, because you do not have any reasonable expectation of privacy in your own driveway - and no reasonable expectation that the government isn't tracking your movements.[/color] That is the bizarre - and scary - rule that now applies in California and eight other Western states. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, which covers this vast jurisdiction, recently decided the government can monitor you in this way virtually anytime it wants - with no need for a search warrant. It is a dangerous decision - one that, as the dissenting judges warned, could turn America into the sort of totalitarian state imagined by George Orwell. It is particularly offensive because the judges added insult to injury with some shocking class bias: the little personal privacy that still exists, the court suggested, should belong mainly to the rich. ... Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckwoww Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 There won't be an organized revolution. People have been well conditioned. Expect to see more individuals going postal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pasathai1 Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 a gps can get a signal under a car? Mine has a problem just inside a stucco building Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCorinthian Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 We have them that can get a signal under a car. But they are EXPENSIVE!!! I would not see a vast amount of this used as it would just cost WAY too much. However, all those saying this is above and beyond need to take a good look at the document you sign in the US when you get a driver's license. It pretty much give the cops a LOT of leeway. A LOT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coss Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 Police in NZ have been doing this for years, but generally only for crims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh_Hoy Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 Yep...same in U.S. Requires a court order or consent. Court order predicated under similar showing for a search warrant. HH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vintage_Kwai Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 There's a solution to every problem.... Anti-GPS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Hippie Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 I live in California (god's country) and have something in my car called "Fast Track." Basically, this is a transponder that is prepaid, and allows me to drive through tolls and bridges and certain paid roads, with out having to stop and pay. So one day, I arrive home from Thailand, and there is a message on my voicemail from some SGT with the highway patrol. He was investigating an accident on Interstate 580, and my Fastrack was recorded as being in the area at that time, and he wanted to know if I had maybe seen anything...That was pretty damned scary for sure! Apparently, as you drive passed certain points with this thing, it sends data to a traffic monitoring center, which then posts estimated travel times on electronic info boards along the highway, allowing you to get up to the minute traffic info, and better plan your route. But It can also be misused...as was the case I just mentioned. They very easily could have tried to use it to blame me or others who were just passing along. I have also learned it can be used to give speeding tickets with out any cop involved...it just measures how fast you went from mark A-B and then decides your speed etc...nasty shit some of this technology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shygye Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 We have them that can get a signal under a car. But they are EXPENSIVE!!! I would not see a vast amount of this used as it would just cost WAY too much. However, all those saying this is above and beyond need to take a good look at the document you sign in the US when you get a driver's license. It pretty much give the cops a LOT of leeway. A LOT! I didn't sign any such document, just the signature line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavanami Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 U.S. Court Rules That Government Can Secretly Track You With GPS, Privacy is For Rich People Only TIME report details legal ruling that befits activity of KGB or the East German Stasi A Report in TIME magazine details how it is now perfectly legal in nine states for the government to attach secret satellite tracking devices to your car and monitor you wherever you go, [color:red]without a search warrant.[/color] As if that wasn’t bad enough, the report also details how [color:red]The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, which made the ruling, essentially suggests that privacy should be reserved for rich people only[/color]. The law, which now applies in California and eight other Western states, stems from a case beginning in 2007 when federal agents of the DEA covertly attached a GPS tracking device to the vehicle of an Oregon man they suspected of growing marijuana. The vehicle was parked in the man’s driveway, yet judges ruled that he did not have any reasonable expectation of privacy under the Fourth Amendment because they driveway was “open to strangers†such as delivery people and neighborhood children... http://www.infowars.com/u-s-court-rules-that-government-can-secretly-track-you-with-gps-privacy-is-for-rich-people-only/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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