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United States President Donald Trump yesterday made an hour-long phone call to Georgia's secretary of state demanding he "find" enough votes to overturn his election defeat, the Washington Post reports.

"So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won the state... There's no way I lost Georgia. There's no way. We won by hundreds of thousands of votes." Donald Trump talking to Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger


Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger says  - "Respectfully, President Trump: What you're saying is not true. The truth will come out."

And because 'mericans are self serving, anyone who has had anything, to do with the Donald, will have tapes...


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And in a clear demonstration of Trump's absolute belief that the answer, to any problem is "More Trump"  ::

Did Donald Trump break the law in his call to Georgia's secretary of state?


"Either the president was engaged in the commission of a felony," he said, "or he has lost his hold on reality such that he can no longer distinguish fact from the fictions he has been fed."

Michael R. Bromwich, a former Justice Department inspector general, put it more bluntly on Twitter: "His best defense would be insanity." ...

 - - - worth a read, originally from the Washington Post

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Our allies must be looking at America as a spent power. No longer fully trusted (if we ever were). The Chinese and Russians are salivating. A great many of the American populace have zero issues with a coup by any means. And these same will tell immigrants 'America, love it or leave it' but won't take their own advice. 

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These groups are ALL pussy cowards. ALL of them. They go after soft targets. Women, kids, elderly, isolated people. Notice they go in numbers to two places. Portland and Kenosha, Wisconsin. 

Plenty of protest marches in St. Louis, Philly, Baltimore, Chicago, big marches. Not a peep. if or when they go near them, they make sure they have police escorts. Notice a pattern in those cities? Yes. One thing to talk shit shooting at straw men in the woods of Idaho, with BLM written on it  Buying thousands of dollars worth of weapons and ammo and talk shit. But they don't want to go near any of the urban protests and yes, urban is coded speech. LOL.

They already know. The Oathkeepers tried going to Maxine Waters office in LA once. I know that office. Its located in a rough area. They asked the cops to protect them. The cops said once you are at the office we can. Problem is they have to park in the area and walk to it. Thats when things went left for the first few guys....lol. They got ran the fuck out of there. 

These areas have guys who have zero issues killing rival neighborhood guys, and these militia groups know this and know its nothing for these guys to see them as an invading threat and act accordingly. And yes, I'm not apologizing for the tone of this post. They go where they know there won't be any problems. Places where they can intimidate the locals (Portland). And then talk shit. 

These pussies, cowards defame a church. A church. And when no one is there. Cowards. Pussies. 100s of dollars of equipment, weaponry, basically for show. Trust me, the LAST thing they would do is use it certain areas. They'll go the 'who me? I'm just a bystander' route quickly. I've seen videos of them hitting women, isolated people. and the few times they tried it, even with numbers on the wrong guy and got their asses handed to them. 


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One of the misunderstandings, I fear,  is the equating, of the groups like,  the proud boys, with an unseen standing army, ready to do Trump's bidding. This is of course, Trump's own mythology.

The only real, substantive armed and aggressive action I've seen in the media, apart from skirmishes at protests, is the ::

Peaceful Protesters Tear-Gassed To Clear Way For Trump Church Photo-Op

present and complicit were : Ivanka Trump, Jared Kushner, along with Attorney General William Barr and other administration officials.

Tear Gas and Rubber Bullets and Mounted Police on your own peaceful people, and then holds the Bible upside down. 

Jeez, only in America...


I can tell you, the rest of us, are breathing a sigh of relief that the orange buffoon will be gone soon. Biden &c, may be f'n useless, but that's better than a descent, into fecklessness and tyranny. 

Oh and I hope the rest of the 'mericans have enough sense, to not kill a swathe of foreigners in the next weeks, cos Trump can.

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10 hours ago, chocolat steve said:

Our allies must be looking at America as a spent power. No longer fully trusted (if we ever were).

And you know that we ( the non USA world),  understand 'mericans,  when Google ('merican),  self completes the words

"merica will after exh"


"america will always do the right thing after exhausting all the alternatives"

quoted from Winston Churchill, who once remarked: “The United States can always be relied upon to do the right thing — having first exhausted all possible alternatives.” 

I for one,  am happy to believe this.

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Tangent :: the Churchill quote referred to above ::

 It is undocumented.

... have been unable to discover it in any transcript, memoir, or published or private writings, speech, or correspondence. This is not to say that Churchill didn’t have that sentiment. Many would not see it as anti-American, but as a plain expression by a friend. As has been said, “A friend is someone who knows all about you, but likes you.”

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