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Is it just me or are they hellbent on retribution until the end of civilization.

When do you stop playing the victim and become part of the solution!

Don't get me wrong I for one do not condone the holocaust but :dunno:

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On 8/10/2024 at 3:00 PM, Coss said:

It's dickheads like Israel's - ...  far-right finance minister who suggested that the starvation of Gaza’s population of more than 2 million Palestinians “might be just and moral”  -  that will lose the Jew's main hold card, which is the concentration camp's holocaust.

For better or worse, right or wrong, history has formed the world and to repeat the bad bits, can only be retrograde.

The problem is, the other side, the Hamas/Hezzbollah side, (because this really isn’t about Palestine anymore, it is about these groups that Iran has gotten to do their bidding),has pledged to kill every Jew in the world and to destroy the nation of Israel…so is Israel really any worse/better for saying the same about the people/children in Gaza?  I mean you can point fingers back and forth on this issue until we are old and tired…ever older and more tired maybe…but both sides are impossible to deal with, both are driven by their own self righteous religious nonsense so how can you deal with it and find any reasonable solution..? 

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On 8/10/2024 at 8:17 PM, bust said:

Is it just me or are they hellbent on retribution until the end of civilization.

When do you stop playing the victim and become part of the solution!

Don't get me wrong I for one do not condone the holocaust but :dunno:

Well, yes, pretty much. We can discuss Israel and “the new apartheid” another time. But for now, focused on the current mess and who started it is a different matter. hamas, backed/instigated by Iran, went and did what they did, there was no reason for it, no justification and frankly, I get tired of my Arab coworkers trying to justify it. Back to topic, hamas did what it did, then went on a region bender claiming they want to eliminate Israel and all Jews…so now, Israel says “…well if that is your attitude, then why should we stop? If we do, you will regroup and try again later…” So we got what we got and it is not going to get better… Both sides want to be the victim and both sides vow to annialate the other so…maybe let them?

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9 hours ago, Old Hippie said:

did what they did, there was no reason for it, no justification and frankly,

Imagine if Texas suddenly decided they wanted to move the border and take a chunk of Chihuahua. What do you think would happen?

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On 8/13/2024 at 12:07 AM, bust said:

Imagine if Texas suddenly decided they wanted to move the border and take a chunk of Chihuahua. What do you think would happen?

There would be some fighting. In fact, there was fighting when we took Texas from Spain/Mexico, just as there was when they stole it from the indigenous people.  Are you saying Israel building settlements in Gaza gave right to Iran to fund hamas to go in and do what they did?

    However, hamas is not solely made up of Palestinian “freedom fighters.” Rather, they are a mix of people hell bent on the destruction of Israel and the annialation of all Jewish people, it is pretty much in their charter. Additionally, they are basically a state sanctioned terrorist group, sponsored by Iran. Yes, Israel is guilty of a lot of atrocities, they are encroaching into areas they should not be. However, the act of a terrorist group who could probably really give a rat’s ass about Palestine or the Palestinian people, brought a war to the people in Gaza and are in part to blame for what followed. WTF did they think was going to happen? hamas knew their action would get innocent women, men and children killed but it doesn’t matter to them because their religious nuttery teaches them those people are now martyrs and are now much better off… Religion has killed more people than anything else.  These people would be living together if the outsiders knocked off their bullshit and the Israelis knocked off some of their’s. As I said, maybe the only/best solution is to let them all kill each other, which may well happen when Iran gets a nuke…

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At least nine people killed, thousands injured after Hezbollah pagers explode across Lebanon

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Explosions rock Lebanon.

In short:

Lebanese health sources say at least nine people have been killed and about 2,800 others injured by a wave of pager explosions across the country.

The devices are used by the militant group Hezbollah for communication.

What's next?

Hezbollah has blamed Israel for the attack and says it will get "its fair punishment".

At least nine people have been killed and about 2,800 others injured after pagers used by the militant group Hezbollah exploded in a wave of blasts across Lebanon. 

The country's health ministry said an eight-year-old girl was among the dead.

A Hezbollah official, speaking on condition of anonymity to Reuters, said the detonation of the pagers was the "biggest security breach" the group had been subjected to in nearly a year of conflict and tensions with Israel.

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Hezbollah and Israel's war is escalating. Four Corners travelled to Lebanon's Hezbollah heartland and found a group determined to hit back.

Experts said the pager explosions pointed to a long-planned operation, possibly carried out by infiltrating the supply chain and rigging the devices with explosives before they were delivered to Lebanon.

The Iranian-backed militant group blamed Israel for the widespread attack and said it would get "its fair punishment".

The Israeli military declined to comment. 

How the attack unfolded 

At about 3:30 pm local time, as people shopped for groceries, sat in cafes or drove through the afternoon traffic, the pagers in their hands or pockets started heating up and then exploding — leaving blood-splattered scenes and panicking bystanders.

A witness has told ABC News of seeing one of the pagers exploding on a man riding a motorcycle in the Lebanese capital, Beirut.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-18/hezbollah-members-reportedly-injured-by-exploding-pagers/104363422

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Israeli forces storm Al Jazeera bureau in West Bank with 45-day closure order

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Israeli forces have stormed the Al Jazeera bureau in West Bank's Ramallah with a military order to close it for 45 days, the news channel says.  

The Qatar-based channel aired live footage of the Israeli troops storming the channel's office and handing over the military closure order before the broadcast was disrupted.

Since the start of the Gaza war, Israel has been deploying a tactic known as GPS "spoofing", which is designed to fool enemy missiles but has also had detrimental impacts on civilian life.

According to reporting on the Al Jazeera website, masked and heavily armed Israeli soldiers entered the building and handed the order to bureau chief of Jerusalem and Ramallah Walid al-Omari.

They did not provide a reason for the decision, according to Al Jazeera. 

"There is a court ruling for closing down Al Jazeera for 45 days," a soldier told al-Omari as Al Jazeera Arabic broadcast the conversation live.

"I ask you to take all the cameras and leave the office at this moment." 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-22/israeli-forces-storm-al-jazeera-bureau-in-west-bank/104381630

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