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ONCE A CHEATER ALWAYS A CHEATER?


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LOL, naw, she's the baby (at 40). She does have a niece, but she, while sweet, is not especially attractive and only speaks Thai, Teo Chew & French. Despite my trying to talk her out of it :), she is looking to go to Frogland...

 

Cheers,

SD

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suadum said:...I was told this by both my wife & father-in-law (with whom I share a Narcissus membership ::)...

 

"Narcissus was a poofter :down: who knelt daily beside a lake to contemplate in his own beauty. He was so fascinated by his own nancy-boy coupon that, one morning, still pissed as a fart after a night cruising the gay rent bars, :drunk: he fell into the lake and drowned. :o When Narcissus kicked the bucket, the hookers of the forest :hubba: appeared and found the lake, which had been fresh water, transformed into a lake of vodka red bull and tears. "Why do you weep, you daft cunt?" the hookers asked the lake, for they too were shitfaced and coked up and did not realise that the lake was not a person. "I weep for that poof Narcissus," the lake replied. "It is no surprise that you weep for that stupid twat," they said, "for though we always pursued him in the forest, you alone could contemplate his beauty close at hand. Even though he was a shirtlifter. :down:" "Eh? Was Narcissus beautiful?" the lake asked. "Before the booze and whizz-powder took its toll on him, yes," the hookers said in wonder. "But who better than you to know that? After all, it was by your banks that he knelt each day to try to sober up." The lake was silent for some time. Finally, it said: "I weep for Narcissus, but I never noticed that Narcissus was beautiful. I weep because, each time he knelt beside my banks, I could see, in the depth of his eyes, my own smashed-up crackhead alcoholic boat race reflected. :("

(F. Jack, 'The Narcissus Legend in 1970s English Soccer' (Smallpiece Press, Stoke UK, 1964 (out of print)))

 

So which one are you then, Suadum. The lake?

 

jack :help:

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Actually I meant Pegasus (hostie bar), although I do go to Narcissus (hi-so disco next door) on occasion, but not with pa-in-law. Always get the names mixed up for some reason LOL. I guess I killed those brain cells.

 

"my own smashed-up crackhead alcoholic boat race reflected"

 

Bwhahahaha. Your typo is very close to the truth :neener:! In the mid-80's to early-90's I raced offshore powerboats professionally (but not full time). These guys taught me how to be a true alcoholic and whore monger. God love 'em.

 

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SD

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I am confused. When I am in Falangland, fortune tellers tell me that having more then one relationship is wrong. When I am in Thailand, all of the fortune tellers I have gone to, tell me that having more then one relationship is a very good thing. This type of conversation has been said to me in front of certain Thai women I know which have always looked at such statements as a very good sign. My question is "When in Rome should we act like the Romans, or should we act differently"?

 

Also, are almost all Thai men cheaters or are they Thai men?

 

My biggest problem has been is that I have cheated most of my life, and only recently did I realize it was wrong. I wonder what else I have been doing wrong?

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Being a engineer, we are trained to look for the root cause of the problem. It is obvious after many calculations that the root cause of your problem is that you are in Farangland! :p

 

Seriously, Asian culture (not just Thai) has been this way for longer that our Farang cultures have even existed. Take that for what it's worth, but it shows a staying power of ideas.

 

My relationship works for me, but it may not work for others. Wifey told me 15 years ago when we married that (in essence) I "could shag other birds, but never let her or her friends find out about it and never let the family down." This is a good thing because I have a much higher libido than my wife. But my wife is my partner, I love her and I would never leave her. She feels the same and we still express this to each other this on a daily basis.

 

I disagree with others that say sex & love are related. Maybe for you, but not for me. Sure there needs to be an attraction for good sex, but that is just chemistry. The BGs I shag are never someone I could fall in love with as they are just too different from me mentally/socially/educationally. But I do fall in lust many times a day ::!

 

So I quietly/anonymously shag birds on the side whilst ensuring that my family wants for nothing. I have a good enough job (both financially & freedom wise) that I can do that easily. Everyone is happy.

 

YMMV

 

Cheers,

SD

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I'm not religious, and so void of all that baggage. It all comes down to a matter of what is right and wrong. Causing great pain to someone you love, is not a good thing. I think everyone can agree with that.

Sure, I can agree with that, but you are implicitly assuming that the other person you love will know, find out or must be told about the "extra-curricular" activity. But supposed they don't have to know about it. How can they be hurt if they don't know or find out about it . . . ? At most there is a risk they would find out and then be hurt.

 

Although, thinking about it some more, I suppose there is also some inherent subtle damage that would be caused by introducing this sort of deceit into a relationship based on trust, even if the person never did find out.

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but it shows a staying power of ideas.

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ideas? IMO, about ideas are as far away from sex as is love!

I think the staying thing is not ideas, but the power relationship between men and women. To control people, control their sexual life. I tend to think that in many countries/cultures (incl. asian), societies have been successful at having women prize their self-worth (survival sometimes) on how attractive or serviceable they are to men.

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I have a Thai g/f now, who wants to marry. Am I ready? I don't know. I'll know when I can be without her, and walk into NEP, and walk out alone... Because if I can't, I will know my true nature

 

In the old days it was simple, go into the forest alone and find the holy grail. Escape from the cave of the Cyclops. Fight the lions or have gladiators fight to the death, or houdini trying to escape while upside down underwater wearing a straight jacket. But what cruel primitive mind came up with this "leave NEP alone" test?

 

Hope i'll never have to prove my mettle in that dangerous venue.

:banghead::o ::

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An instinct is repressed by humans but still an instinct, as strong as in any other animal IMHO. The sex drive especially.

 

The act of repression does not lessen it, the energy finds an alternative way of manifesting itself i.e internet porn addiction, addiction to the scene, or even seemingly unrelated activities like obsessive compulsive disorders, depression, drugs or other neurosis as the psche people like to label things.

 

 

I think the staying thing is not ideas, but the power relationship between men and women. To control people, control their sexual life. I tend to think that in many countries/cultures (incl. asian), societies have been successful at having women prize their self-worth (survival sometimes) on how attractive or serviceable they are to men.

 

I agree, can you elaborate on the "why"?

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Well, it's JJ, i think, who said the insitinct was suppressed, not me. I just indicated that via culture, society, it's not as potent and overcoming (no pun) as in mating seasons animals.

 

"why"?

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probably first, long time ago, by making women one of the greatest prizes, on virtue of their reproductive functions, then, to be coveted and kept from other predators, while giving women a social function not to depart with.

Nowadays, most likely, from force of habit, after so many thousand years, or plain stupidity or ignorance.

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