khunsanuk Posted January 6, 2004 Report Share Posted January 6, 2004 Hi, "Now, if you were a good looking girl coming from an impoverished family to support, what would you do?" I have no problem understanding that this happens, and why it happens. My disagreement is with the numbers, they just don't add up. With 2M women in the trade, the ratio for girls in the 15-25 range would likely be close to 1 in 4 entering the trade (assuming here that the majority of the 15-39 range will be in the 15-25 range). Now to me that sounds preposterous. Sanuk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiHome Posted January 6, 2004 Report Share Posted January 6, 2004 I agree that the numbers being bandied about here are absurd. I have driven by assembly factories out near Chachoengsao at shift change and there are more women 18-40 or so working there then in NEP, Soi Cowboy, and the entire rest of Suk area, including all the free-lancers. One way to put this in perspective is to think of a large sports stadium. Say one that holds 100,000 people. Ever been in one that is full? That is a lot of people. Has anyone here actually seen enough different women working in the Farang scene that would fill that stadium up? I sure haven't. TH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 6, 2004 Report Share Posted January 6, 2004 >>>>I have driven by assembly factories out near Chachoengsao at shift change and there are more women 18-40 or so working there then in NEP, Soi Cowboy, and the entire rest of Suk area, including all the free-lancers.<<<< Funny you should mention that. I met a girl on BKKCHAT who worked in a huge Chachoengsao wood factory making furniture for Ikea. She lived on Lad Prao, and the company bus would pick her up every day to transport her to job. She ended up going to Kho Tao with me, although a professed non-b/g. What makes you think none of the girls (or guys for that matter) working in that factory do not freelance on weekends, or the occasional work night? Why would they be less apt to do, than a secretary on Silom? >>>>Has anyone here actually seen enough different women working in the Farang scene that would fill that stadium up?<<<< We never will. Untold numbers work out-of-country, escort services, MP's.....in every corner of Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiHome Posted January 6, 2004 Report Share Posted January 6, 2004 Well, if you meet her on the Internet and she told you she worked in a factory (and then went with you to Kho Tao) she surely must be a reliable source and that must be a common practice for factory workers. You have convinced yourself that a significant number of Thai women are prostitutes and the money you bring into to Thailand to pay them is significant contributor to the overall Thai economy. Though the reality is much different, you go on and believe that. I'm sure it makes you feel powerful when you are in Thailand. TH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 6, 2004 Report Share Posted January 6, 2004 TH, <<<<You have convinced yourself that a significant number of Thai women are prostitutes and the money you bring into to Thailand to pay them is significant contributor to the overall Thai economy.<<<<< I honestly have no idea where you are getting that from????? I merely stated that to believe that there are no freelancers working in any of those factories you mentioned, is niave, at best. Many live in BKK, near sanuk area's, and are picked up by company buses going down major arteries throughout BKK, in the morning. The girl I spoke of does not work there any more, but 2 of her friends I know, still do. One is a gay guy living in BKK, who frequents all Japanese gay bars, closed to females. He makes extra money there on weekends. I've know these guys for almost a year, talking with them almost daily. They are not someone I had a 10 minute chat with just last night. You brought up the example of those factories in your argument, not me. I'm simply saying all there might not be as squeeky clean as you portray. Please don't read anything more into that, than what I am actually saying. I am not saying a significant number of Thai women are prostitutes. I don't know. That is what this thread is about. To determine if news article may be valid, or not. HT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 6, 2004 Report Share Posted January 6, 2004 In any event, guys stats come out to 4.5% of the population was involved in prostitution over a 4 year period. For a country world famous for it's huge sex trade, that number does not seem that outrageous to me. It only starts being seemingly outrageous when you start assuming size of particular age groups, and what percentage the male workers make up the total whole. None of which were disclosed in report. And as I said before, the Thai trade makes up most of the numbers stated, and since there is not any real good data out there, about that sector, it makes it much harder to come to any real diffinitive conclusions, as we are not privy to what really goes on there, IMO. Report also says 60,000 sex service outlets. That is 1 outlet for every 100 people living there. Does that seem reasonable? HT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunsanuk Posted January 6, 2004 Report Share Posted January 6, 2004 Hi, "Though the reality is much different, you go on and believe that. I'm sure it makes you feel powerful when you are in Thailand." That line was uncalled for. I would appreciate if you did not make these discussion personal. Sanuk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfinkz Posted January 6, 2004 Report Share Posted January 6, 2004 "...60,000 sex service outlets...1 outlet for every 100 people...Does that seem reasonable?" _____________________________________________ No it doesn't. That would be one outlet for every 1000 people. (If they were ranked from 1-60,000 why is it I am more curious about the bottom of the barrel rather than the cream of the crop?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunsanuk Posted January 6, 2004 Report Share Posted January 6, 2004 Hi, "Report also says 60,000 sex service outlets. That is 1 outlet for every 100 people living there. Does that seem reasonable?" Uh.. try 1 in 1,000 people. Sanuk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 6, 2004 Report Share Posted January 6, 2004 Hahahaha Sorry......... You are right. 45 sex workers for every 1,000 Thai's. Does that seem totaly reasonable? That is what his report is saying. I'm just not convinced that this number is so outrageous. It is a very small percentage of the population, and I'm assuming encompases every aspect of the trade, over 4 years. But....we can never really know. I'm just more apt to take this guys figures as real, before I will listen to NGO's, and the 'official' government figures. He seems autonomous, and has his reputation on the line. Just my take. HT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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