Taking the girl out of the bar forever(?)

[Guest]

"It makes a huge difference. A khon Thai will not be paying 3,000 baht short time for a hooker. More like 200 baht."

 

uh...Dude ::I mean HT, where is that?? middle class bangkokians seem to be willing to spend on a single ST a significant percentage of their salary.I see guys who make less or around 30K/month spend 1500 to 3000bts ST easily. If they're BO or on higher salaries they'll probably spend more on birds.

I regulary feel like a tight bugger when I go to the MPs with them, or even Siam Hotel.

[think_too_mut]

HIGH THAIED said:

>>>I didn't deliniate between farang based prsotitution and Thai based prostitution. What difference does it make if a prostitute chooses to go to the farang or the Thai side<<<

 

It makes a huge difference. A khon Thai will not be paying 3,000 baht short time for a hooker. More like 200 baht.

 

HT

 

Could be, in the road-side brothels upcountry. Check what they pay at the Poseidon.

[soongmak]

Soongmak, I doubt I've been abusive anywhere in this thread but whatever... there are common characters to the profession, like prostitutes have sex for money, and we might find some commun motivations in there, people definetely get in some job out of some consideration, do U know many who were born caucasian out of consideration?

 

Hi AP,

 

No you haven't been abusive, sorry about that. Although I agree with you that there are some things prostitutes have in common, like having sex for money.

 

My point however is that there are no common personality traits that a person has to have to enter the prostitution, and this is what some posters keep repeating. Saying that most whores are liars, or greedy or lazy is not a fact backed up by research, it is simply a prejudice.

 

I get really tired of some posters who immediately start pushing these personality issues, especially when they have no hands-on experience in the matter. Couple that with a lack formal studies and all you have is a prejudiced vision of what constitutes a prostitute, based on anecdotal evidence.

 

Hope you understand what I am getting at.

 

Cheers,

 

soongmak

[think_too_mut]

>My point however is that there are no common personality traits that a person has to have to enter the prostitution, and this is what some posters keep saying ad nauseam. Saying that most whores are liars, or greedy or lazy is not a fact backed up by research, it is simply a prejudice.

 

 

Sorry to disagree, but IME & IMO there are.

 

I did exactly that - took a prostitute out of the trade. It's been almost 3 years now.

 

Don't know if HT really knows what he is talking about but he is right IMO.

 

There are some shades in the character that make girls choose their way into prostitution.

 

Those attributes make it hell hard to cope with the girl. Most of the "rescuers" would not know how to deal with their own life, let alone to take a responsibility for correcting somebody's shortfalls and guide her into the mainstream.

 

On the girl's part, irresponsibility, stubborness, lack of education are the major obstacles. All they see is 30 mins ago and what is next. Not normal for the always mainstream girls. Normal girls build on the past, commitment and the joint venture (in best possible terms).

 

Of course, it applies to my gf. It was her free choice.

 

The platform was : "I want a farang!".

 

With (then) no skills she could do it only through a gogo bar. Her mother went to the bar to take her home, she managed to get someone to escort her (the mother) to the bus bounded for upcountry.

 

Poverty? Yes. But it was not any deeper than for others within her surroundings.

 

Out of 2 dozens of bgs I met (off duty, as friends of my gf) , only one was a potential good girl.

 

Conclusion: IMO, IME, there is more than poverty that make girls enter prostitution.

[soongmak]

Sorry to disagree, but IME & IMO there are.

 

Please enlighten me and tell which common personality traits prostitutes share. So far, I haven't heard one.

 

 

Conclusion: IMO, IME, there is more than poverty that make girls enter prostitution.

Off course that is not the only reason. The reasons can be tenfold, and off course can have something to do with the character of a certain girl. To say however that most prostitutes share a certain set of negative character traits is ridiculous. We can do without the insulting sweeping generalisations that have clouded this discussion.

 

Cheers,

 

soongmak

[think_too_mut]

soongmak said:

Sorry to disagree, but IME & IMO there are.

 

Please enlighten me and tell which common personality traits prostitutes share. So far, I haven't heard one.

 

 

Conclusion: IMO, IME, there is more than poverty that make girls enter prostitution.

Off course that is not the only reason. The reasons can be tenfold, and off course can have something to do with the character of a certain girl. To say however that most prostitutes share a certain set of negative character traits is ridiculous. We can do without the insulting sweeping generalisations that have clouded this discussion.

 

Cheers,

 

soongmak

 

Ridiculous? That's my reality. Tell me it is not.

[soongmak]

Still waiting for that set of those negative character traits, shared by the majority of prostitutes,TTM. ::

 

Would be nice if they were based on something more than anecdotal evidence, as well!

[JJsushi]

HIGH THAIED said:

>>>I didn't deliniate between farang based prsotitution and Thai based prostitution. What difference does it make if a prostitute chooses to go to the farang or the Thai side<<<

 

It makes a huge difference. A khon Thai will not be paying 3,000 baht short time for a hooker. More like 200 baht.

 

HT

 

 

Does not matter. The prosittution pie is the prostitution pie. The industry contributes to the economy as a whole. I doubt if Heineken or Singha beer care if they are selling their product to a farang establishment or a Thai establishment. I doubt if a restaurant cares they are selling their food to a Tha or farang punter. I don't think the shops in the Emporium care if the customer buying designer clothes for his prostitute is a farang or Thai punter. Think big picture HT not lower Sukhumvit.

 

Also again you are misguided. There are several price points or segments to the Thai P4P scene the same as it is or even more so than the farang scene. You wrongly assume that on the Thai side of prostitution, every Thai pays 200bt for a short time or much less than farangs would pay for the services of prostitutes. There are segments of the Thai prostitution market that will make what you pay for a Nana BG seem like pocket change. Don't assume Thai men are not big or generous spenders when it comes to P4P.

[think_too_mut]

soongmak said:

Still waiting for that set of those negative character traits, shared by the majority of prostitutes,TTM. ::

 

Would be nice if they were based on something more than anecdotal evidence, as well!

 

Before I manage to organize a nation wide referendum and get exactly what the populus think, I have to rely on something.

 

Better on what I know than what you know, me thinks.

 

BTW, what are your experiences in taking a girl out of prostitution? You might know more than I do.

[soongmak]

Before I manage to organize a nation wide referendum and get exactly what the populus think, I have to rely on something.

 

Better on what I know than what you know, me thinks.

 

Sure,

 

A lot of people do this. As long as you don't stick to your convinctions "till the cows come home." ::

 

I personally prefer to keep an open mind and reserve my opinions for those occasions when they have some basis in fact, rather than convictions.