Torneyboy Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 Oh how the mighty have fallen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 The interesting thing is I've read that his intent originally was to cut out all the waste in the military. There is an estimated 1 Trillion....yes, Trillion with a T, that has vanished and unaccounted for over the last 30 years in the defense budget and the CIA and skunkworks programs and the like. Rummy was a big proponent of stopping the money from being wasted on $35 hammers (true, remember the stories in the '80s?). Then 911 happened as well as his being Bush's loyal servant and the philosophy of what is now called 'neocon'. He paid the price for buying into a program and a philosophy he didn't really believe in if what I've heard is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian2 Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 Oh frabjous day, but on the side of caution let us not forget that these Democrats are still politicians and consequently suffer from bad short term memory.... "We said we'd do what???" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elef Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 Too much money went to the companies close to Cheney, same sort of corruption as Thaksin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayjann Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 i still get confused about the American style of politics. the Republicans are anti-Royalty and want a Republic (which the USA has).......? sounds like the Labour Party in the UK. the Democrats are more liberal.......? but they both have their sex and cash scandals...........? so am i right in thinking that at the moment Bush and Blair are both on the same side......? so if in a couple of Years the Democrats get in and the UK still have a Labour Government does that mean that there will be trouble........?. any useful info would be grateful........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckwoww Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 OK forget about Liberals. It doesn't have the same meaning in the US. If you think of Republicans as conservative and Democrats as socialist you are getting close. I'm sure somebody will disagree because there are conservative Democrats and compassionate Conservatives. There are also people called Independents and Libertarians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Hippie Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 Republicans are basically right wing socialists, Democrates are basically left wing socialists... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian2 Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 Republicans are conservative, ie anti change, small government, low taxes, reduced government spending and pro big business. The Democrats seem to be somewhere between that and the Labour party. Most Labour pollies woudn't object to being described as Socialist but it would get you a punch on the nose from a Democrat. Blair went with Bush over Iraq because...... why the fuck did he go with Bush? No doubt the American board members will enlighten you further. What I don't understand is when they register to vote they seem to register as aRepublican or a Democrat, or is that the same as being a party member? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckwoww Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 Right. Being a socialist is almost as bad as being liberal in some circles. But not quite as bad as being French. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 In the US one has to register as a member of a political party to be able to vote in the primary elections, where the parties choose their candidates. Now where my home is the ballots clearly say that by voting in the primary you are agreeing to vote for that party's candidate in the general election. In practice, there is nothing to make you do so. In fact, I have a friend who is a Yellow Dog Democrat (=only vote Democratic, no matter who is running). Yet he registers Republican so he can vote for the weakest Republican of the candidates seeking the nomination! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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