bust Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 if that is the case I suggest you leave it to other people to judge their characters because what you are judging is her profession and I assure you once again that there is a major difference between those two things! That is exactly the point CT, but what you fail to see though is that their character is what draws them to the bar in the first place. Take the girl who works in the shoe store in MBK or the woman at the BTS window. Seeing the job or career they have chosen says a lot about their character the same as the bar girl. But it's highly unlikey you will see the BTS lady shimmying up a pole at Nancy Wong same as you will be unlikely to see the bar girl selling shoes for 6000 baht a month. It's all about seduction CT. The punters are seduced by the girls and the girls are seduced by the money. Their profession tells you so much about their character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Hippie Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Exactly, and as We have said a zillion times, guys want to fluff this off...and make them all out to be saints...I will add the choice of job does indded say a lto about a person's character, be it aircraft mechanic, accountant, clerk, whore, pimp or porn sight owner...yet, the ones who exploit human desparation, turn around and tell us not to be judgemental? really hypocritical in my view... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristianTroy Posted January 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Not sure why you don't get back to me CT. I am sorry Panadol, I wasn't aware of any attempt to contact me or responding to me directly, If I have overseen a post I am sorry. ...but sometimes you come across as too uptight. I just think you need to chill a little bit. Sit back, let a cool beer come your way and No offence taken! I am uptight about this and I won't chill and I tell you why. I am sick of accusations about people who don't have a voice here to defend themselves. I don't really care if 20,000 board members are against me or voting for me, what I want is to show based on my own experiences what is behind that mask and whenever someone is bashing a possible good girl as a filthy whore I will say something against it unless it really appears she is a slut! I don't like these stereotypes when it comes to character judgement. I have said it many times, I don't have scammer experiences, 3 attempts which I have spottet before that little lie was able to hurt me, other than that I had 3 girlfriends in Thailand, 1st a BG who didnt wanted money or better said she accepted not to get any from me! The 2nd was in love with me from the first day and after 7 days she Tattoed my name on her back to show me she is different. Untill today she hasn't given up on me. She is that kind of girl who knows she is a terrible liar thats why she doesnt even bither with me, I know what she is doing with other people and I am laughing my ass off that they can't see it. She is that kind of girl that gave me 5000 baht back when I sponsored her, I gave her 20k and she said 15 is enough to live in Si Chompu. The 3rd one was a banker girl, I have failed to see how great she really is, she was jealous and I was to stupid to make her calm. However she is not a hooker and therefore offtopic! The 3 scamming attempts came from so called GTGs, one a Marriott receptionist, one works at a currency exchange counter for Bank of Bangkok and the 3rd one owns 3 Laundry Services in Pattaya. Spottet it early, sorted them out! However, Panadol you are right, I could chill about these accusation but I won't in fact I have just started. I got 6 PTs if I recall correctly from people who said that they hsare my opinion but wont post it because they are afraid to get bashed by the obvious people with the huge post count! Well, I don't give a shit if I get bashed I will respond, Cause and Effect is that called I guess! It is not a crusade it is not a mission but I am sick of a couple of things and the stereotype tone on this board, it is my part of contributing an alternative, whoever wants to listen, listens, whoever thinks I am a jerk, can call me a jerk. Many of the BGs have convinced me to be good people in general, I know what some of them doing with a stupid customer who throws money at her and for me that is him who is the prick and not her, she is doing her job which is making money from farang, she is not the fool for taking it when she found an idiot who is giving it to her. One last thing about these so called low life hookers (and I am including myself), it is guys like us who buy their service, some of us even depend on their service because of a lack of options, we want something from them and we are willing to pay for it because we dont get it for free. Doesn't that make us the lowlifes after all, at least to some extent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristianTroy Posted January 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Bust, I agree to some extent with you on the choosing the job thing, I have also said in this post that in p4p business is simply more money to make! For me that says not as much about their character as it does for you. I actually find rather smart to make money with your looks and even Old Hippie admitted he would do the same if he could pick the girls himself! We had this argument in this thread before, Old Hippie even admitted to have done something bad in his desperation, he comitted a crime and got caught. What if he wasnt caught? I also found it low to compare robbing a store with prostitution especially in a contry where you can't pull more than 8k baht out of a regular job without advanced education! If a mother wants a better life for her child than she has than it is up to her and that probably shows more good character than someone who sells a t-shirt These girls are doing a great contribution to their families, at least the most of them. That is the point you guys fail to see by judging so blindly! OH, I was photographing nude models and published their pictures, what does that have to do with anything, these girls advertise their availability on the internet and I have hired them! They work on their own bill, in fact I pay them! A pimp is someone who takes sex money from a prostitue in order to protect her. Some pimps even force their girls! A bar owner is making his money from the drinks, I pay the girls for dancing what they are doing outside of the bar is obvious but none of my business, in fact I have to pay them for the dancing and I give the comission for drinks! Trying to use that PM regarding the book you read to use against me??? Really are we that low now? Anyways, I don't harm the girls, I give those a job who want one and are matching my concept! Inf fact they earn money, there is no exploitation, if you wanna see it that way, voilá... up to you, not my problem what you think about me, I know who I am, you dont scratch me, call me whatever you want, just dont do it with the girls who are probably much better persons than someone like you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Hippie Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 What you fail to realize is we are all in the same game/world, be we pimps, whores, punters etc, we are all the same, one sells because the other buys...one buys because the other sells, I have said this a zillion times...all in the same game, no one is above the other. Yet you, and others choose to try and elevate one element of this game/world out of the arena, and hold it up as special or better or incapable of wrong. You are very wrong/foolish for that. "...If a mother wants a better life for her child than she has than it is up to her and that probably shows more good character than someone who sells a t-shirt These girls are doing a great contribution to their families, at least the most of them. That is the point you guys fail to see by judging so blindly!..." YAWN again...you really don't get it do you? "...up to you, not my problem what you think about me, I know who I am, you dont scratch me, call me whatever you want, just dont do it with the girls who are probably much better persons than someone like you!..." But you do care, or else you wouldn't waste so much time promoting yourself as being better and more understanding...which is crap, you just fall for all the crap these WHORES tell you.You will learn...than again maybe not... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristianTroy Posted January 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 What I have to learn again? How you know all that from not living here and goging to NanaPlaza? Man I was under the impression that you are cynical and funny in your posts, it appears you are serious, lol! Why you spend so much money on tickets and hotels just to fuck these filthy whores? Why all this to have a meanigless fuck with a skank? Dou you understand what I am calling you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Hippie Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 "...What I have to learn again? How you know all that from not living here and goging to NanaPlaza?..." How can you live there and be so clueless? "...Why you spend so much money on tickets and hotels just to fuck these filthy whores? Why all this to have a meanigless fuck with a skank?..." Bercause I can...but as I have said a zillion times, it isn't all cheap whores, and anyone who goes just for that is missing a lot, but you never read that did you? "...Dou you understand what I am calling you?..." What ? a Punter? a buyer of whores? No? but it is probably nothing worse than I have been called before, and considering the source, I don't care. You really know nothing about me do you...? oh well...as for Nanaplaza...? I hate the place, and genereally avoid it, shows what you know, and how much attention you pay to what people write... Cynical and funny? yes, I am...also very serious at times...hey, you wanted to discuss this, not me. You started the thread...now you don't like the answers/comments/replys you are getting, and chose to be upset...what can I say? you asked for it. You got it. Not my fault you don't like hearing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bust Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 If a mother wants a better life for her child than she has than it is up to her and that probably shows more good character than someone who sells a t-shirt These girls are doing a great contribution to their families, at least the most of them. That is the point you guys fail to see by judging so blindly! Crikey........nearly missed this little beauty. (was just watching story on Steve Irwin tribute) CT do you realise what you have said? The mother wants a better life for her daughter so she send her off to a life of prostitution. Now I don't live in LOS but I know all about "mother's milk" That is why she is sent away, for a better life yes, but for the mother. But then you acknowledge that, without really understanding the reason. And you believe that a mother who sends her daughter to work in the sex industry is of better character than one who will make a modest living from running a T-shirt stall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Hippie Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Also fails to address the question of why more women don't whore, and what hapens if the woman makes more money in a legitimate busines? Then is she of better character? does money mean character? in LOS, yes, but in reality, the Thais look down on Whores... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristianTroy Posted January 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 I want to know, what makes you think I am clueless. How can I be clueless and making a decent living (sorry for promoting myself) Am I happy only because I don't know shit? How you going to proof that? What exactly do you know about BGs except of that one has scammed you and that they fuck for money? You said in rsponse to my question that you are fucking these lowlifes because you can. I remember you saying that you condemn people that pay too much for sponsoring when they say "I do it because I can!" "or saying still cheaper than at home" Kinda goes into the same direction. No critique in this part, just a round up. I understand why you are saying it even when it doesn't answer the question! So why is it appealing to you to fuck these girls when you have such a bad opinin about them? 1 week ago you still cared about the source and shared private stuff with me, it was also you who said to speak my mind. Now I said once something against you and you act like a little boy! I am sure you have sent at least 2 PTs to build a backstabber alliance again like you always do when someone is calling you out! Now isn't that a low gesture of me to stab you in the back like that? What you gotta learn is to know who you can trust, obviously one guy was closer to me than to you. Som Nam Na! That is you Old Hippie, you are running around with a flame thrower and when you get a pinch you are insulted and use it! That post that made you angry wasnt meant as an Attack, i thought you are a man of honesty who can take critique after you do nothing but critsizing everyone who has something nice to say about a hooker! Okay now my word isn't important for you anymore, last week it was, well, I can see how you got your conclusion about the BGs now, lol. Whoever agrees with you is on your side and whoever disagrees is not? Hippie Hippie, you are right I have to learn so much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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