Flashermac Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 The Archbishop of Wales, Dr Barry Morgan, has described a rise in "fundamentalism" as one of the great problems facing the world. He focused on what he described as "atheistic fundamentalism". He said it led to situations such as councils calling Christmas "Winterval", schools refusing to put on nativity plays and crosses removed from chapels. In his Christmas message, he said: "Any kind of fundamentalism, be it Biblical, atheistic or Islamic, is dangerous." The archbishop said "atheistic fundamentalism" was a new phenomenon. He said it advocated that religion in general and Christianity in particular have no substance, and that some view the faith as "superstitious nonsense". As well as leading to Christmas being called "Winterval," the archbishop said "virulent, almost irrational" attacks on Christianity led to hospitals removing all Christian symbols from their chapels, and schools refusing to allow children to send Christmas cards with a Christian message. He also said it led to things like "airlines refusing staff the freedom to wear a cross round their necks" in a reference to the row in which British Airways (BA) suspended an employee who insisted on wearing a cross necklace. Dr Morgan said: "All of this is what I would call the new "fundamentalism" of our age. It allows no room for disagreement, for doubt, for debate, for discussion. Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckwoww Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 I think the Archbishop has a point. There are some real militant atheists out there. Strange times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkoktraveler Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 It seems to have a political element also. Democrats are first to point the wrongs and what should be done but provide no real solutions. For example, the USA sits on large amounts of oil, but almost none of it can be used because it might affect the invironment. Therefore it is better to pay $3.00 a gallon for gas then to use our own oil. As for the original post, in the USA we have freedom of religion which is gradually eroding because of the PC people. We can't do this and we can't do that instead of being less Talabanic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunsanuk Posted December 23, 2007 Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 Hi, "I think the Archbishop has a point." Partially. I think all those things are done to appease Muslims, not to appease atheists. Sanuk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted December 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 And yet Muslims demand respect for their beliefs and holidays. Remember that idiot in the US who was demanding her driving licence photo have her in a burqa? But there was an especially nasty woman in the US named Madeleine Murray O'Hare (I think). She was a militant atheist and a self-proclaimed communist - and is the one who tried to get Christmas trees banned, nativity scenes forbidden, prayers outlawed in schools etc. Sort of like "I don't believe it, so you can't either!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.. Posted December 23, 2007 Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 I think the Archbishop has a point. There are some real militant atheists out there. Strange times. C'mon Chuck! I mean, there's lots of wars and violence and civil liberty snuffing done in the name of atheism...NOT! Cheers, SD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun_Kong Posted December 23, 2007 Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 ... Sort of like "I don't believe it, so you can't either!" Then again, she may have been thinking about this: From ruling in 1947 of Everson v. Board of Education of Ewing Twp", the U.S. Supreme Court ruled: ...Neither a state nor the Federal Government can, openly or secretly, participate in the affairs of any religious organizations or groups and vice versa.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh_Hoy Posted December 23, 2007 Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 I mean, there's lots of wars and violence and civil liberty snuffing done in the name of atheism...NOT! Cheers, SD SD...just reflecting on those items, I'd hazard a guess that atheists-in-charge are probably responsible for their share of the above. Or maybe you're saying that atheists deserve the moral high ground on these types of things? I don't think so. HH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lazyphil Posted December 23, 2007 Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 i dont think gwb is a christian, he might puport to be one but hes an atheist at heart unless oil is a god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted December 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 << C'mon Chuck! I mean, there's lots of wars and violence and civil liberty snuffing done in the name of atheism...NOT! >> I had a friend who grew up in East Berlin. She told me she couldn't go to university, since she refused to take an oath of atheism. The Wall wasn't up yet, so she went to stay with some relatives in the West and studied in the evil capitalistic Federal Republic. Under the communists, atheism was the "state religion" in the GDR, USSR etc. All religious faiths are still having a pretty rough time in communist Vietnam. But I suppose that doesn't count. Neither does the PRC's destruction of ancient Tibetan monastaries and the burning of their libraries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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