.. Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 I just bought four Hoyo de Monterrey coronations tubos. From the same display at the same little kiosk shop. Upon smoking, I find that there are label inconsistencies. Now I know that they change labels, but the differences here is significant and something I've not seen on other Cubans. First off, the flat printed band is of really inferior paper. And neither band matches what I have found to be a "real" band; tho' again, different sizes often use different band designs. And I'm not normally a Hoyo guy, so I don't know. Here's the pix: The embossed, pretty band cigar looks to be slightly bigger, but again normal with hand rolled (they vary within one ring gauge). The lengths are identical tho'. The build looks the same, as does the wrapper. And when I smoked the brown band one tonight, it smoked well. It seems that it may have tasted slightly different than the one I smoked with an embossed band a few days ago, but I can't be 100% sure as this is not my regular brand and I've had a Bolivar and an H. Upmann since then. It certainly wasn't a "dog turd,", but maybe not as nice as the first one. Or maybe I'm imagining things. The tubes look identical and no red flags (good quality, well printed, etc). The real question is the really cheap quality paper on the brown band. That is a red flag to me. Anyone know anything about these? Cheers, SD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unit731 Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 Certainly, there are knock offs for everything. But, I wouldn't doubt if the great socialist Republic of Cuba may be facing hard times and not spending the money on the colored ink on the band. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BelgianBoy Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 A katoy sigar ? Seriously, in my smoking days, there were Cuban copies from Jamaica available..... BB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.. Posted March 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 Certainly, there are knock offs for everything. But, I wouldn't doubt if the great socialist Republic of Cuba may be facing hard times and not spending the money on the colored ink on the band. Just a thought. Knock-off Cubans are big biz. I've just never seen one before because I generally buy mine by the box from a reputable dealer. This time I have been on the road so long that I did not have any with me and wanted a smoke, so I bought from a small kiosk instead of a proper smoke shop... Still not that big of a deal since these were cheapish: P495/ea (~US$10/ea). Cheers, SD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pe7e Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 There's some useful advice HERE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unit731 Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 There's some useful advice HERE Good article. Obtaining a real Cuban cigar is much more complicated than I thought. I never smoked a cigar. I did purchase a couple in Nogalas for friends. Who knows what I really purchased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkoktraveler Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 I don't smoke but I have had my share of many a fine Cuban cigars. I used to bring them back to the US all the time. I would give one away to this person and another one to this person. One farang woman I know asked me for some of the cigars, and before I knew it, she smoked all that I had. Fark! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck6660 Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 SD Check ou this website http://www.cigaraficionado.com/Cigar/CA_Counterfeits/Counterfeit_Page/0,3391,32,00.html I checked several websites and saw no brown brands displayed on Hoyo Demonterrey cigars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.. Posted March 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 Ya, I linked to that article in my OP. I too could not find a brown band on a Hoyo, nor do I recall ever seeing one (but Hoyos, and smalll machine-rolled sticks, are not my usual thing). And the paper, being thinner than a cash register receipt was weird. Reasonably certain it is a fake. Oh well. Cheers, SD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Munchmaster Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 I have, in the past, bought Hoyo de Monterey Epicure No.2 which had no band. They were genuine and from a reputable dealer. Now the same cigar comes with a band but not a brown one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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