Wallenda Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 I suspect he was using the clothes hanger bar in the wardrobe to tie the cord to to support himself while asphyxiating himself in the autoeroticism playing? It is about the only thing you could use in a hotel room I would think that would work for this sort of stuff. Shower curtain rod is likely not strong enough for this. Good. Makes sense. I don't know much about how it actually works, just wondering why you'd need to be hanging to be strangled. There's all these conflicing details at this point, and I'm sure a lot of them must just be wrong. Some of them might be being taken from Thai tabloid reports, which are probably as factually accurate as a typical gossip column. Like there's this purported photo now -- with all identifying features blacked out. So who's to say it's real. I wonder what the reputation of the paper that published it is (anyone know which?). It can't be that high if they'd publish something like this. Of course if it turns out it's real, it shoots the argument of the Thai police (that they have the investigation under control) to shit. If the photo is real, it's proof positive that their cops will accept payments to not do what they're supposed to. (As if we need more proof of that.) And if they'd do that, sell the photos, it means their investigation can't be trusted. As for his hands being bound... he wouldn't need to have much skill to put handcuffs on himself. But the more telling clue in this is that he would need to be Houdini to get back out of them once he finished. And that last part would go for any way he'd bound his hands, I think. So we're back again to ... assuming his hands were bound, as the Thai police (supposedly) report -- if the police said that, then it follows that someone else must have been in the room at the time. Or else it means it was deliberate suicide. Maybe he wanted to go out saluting us. Very strange way to decide to go, though. It sounds very wrong. Everything seems to point to someone else being in the room. And by the way, I haven't heard anything solid yet confirming this footprint on the bed. I'm skeptical of that one. I mean, how do you leave a footprint on a bed? An imprint? On a mattress? Or is it dirt? Again, on beds you typically have sheets and blankets, not the best surface on which to take a clear footprint. I think it'd be a rare case where they could look at a footprint left on a bed that could be positively identified. With all these details, notice whether they are reported as coming from a certain source or not -- a specific person, in other words. For example, according to Inspector Chulawulawit or whatever. If it says 'according to police' then that's a tricky way of not really sourcing the fact. "Police" could mean a secretary at the police department, for all we know. And notice some details are listed without any source cited at all. Worst is 'according to published reports' which amounts to hearsay or rumor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartThais Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Forget about Houdini or reverse Houdini. The real question is how does a man expect to jerk off with his hands tied? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Bangkok Post 8 Jun 2009 Carradine family upset by Thailand The family of the late actor David Carradine have launched strong anti-Thailand criticism touched off by the death of the TV and movie star. They are "profoundly disturbed" by publication of a forensics photo in a Bangkok newspaper, claim that the Thai pathologist is incompetent, want to go around the Thai police with FBI investigators - and threaten to sue any Thai media printing additional photos of Carradine after his death. US authorities have not answered the family's demands for help from the FBI and an independent pathologist - at least officially. But Thai authorities have been restrained in their reaction. "I am confident we are working on the right track," Pol Col Somprasong Yenthaum, who is leading the probe, told the French news agency AFP. "US embassy representatives saw every step of the investigation process in the hotel room." He said Carradine's relatives had the right to seek help from the FBI, but added that the bureau would have to contact Thailand's attorney general who would then decide whether to forward the request to the police. "We can work with FBI if they request and their request is passed. But if they don't come, we can do our jobs," he added. Chief forensic investigator on the case is Thailand's chief pathologist, Khunying Pornthip Rojanasunand, who is director of the Forensic Science Institute. She is well known internationally, and considered a highly credible state official. Her initial autopsy report revealed that the actor died from a sudden lack of oxygen and his body showed no signs of struggle. She has promised a final report on Carradine's death in three to four weeks. Carradine's brother Keith has filed reports with the FBI that could lead to the agency's involvement, said Mark Geragos, attorney for the "Kung Fu" actor's half-brother. The FBI confirmed that Carradine's family had contacted the agency. The body of the actor has been sent to the US after the Thai autopsy. The actor's family said they hope the body will arrive in Los Angeles by Monday. The family will also seek an independent autopsy by famed US forensic pathologist Dr Michael Baden to determine whether another person could have been involved. A chambermaid found Carradine's body Thursday in a closet in his room at the Swissotel Nai Lert Park Hotel. Thai authorities said they have all but ruled out foul play, based on surveillance footage and interviews with hotel staff that indicate no one was in Carradine's room before he died, said Pol Col Somprasong. It has been widely speculated that the actor accidentally asphyxiated himself while involved in masturbation. A grainy photo published on the Saturday front page of Thai Rath newspaper shows a naked body suspended from a clothes bar in a hotel closet, hands apparently bound together above the head and feet on the floor. The face is blacked out and other areas are obscured. The paper did not indicate the source of the image, but Thai police said they believed it was a picture of Carradine's body taken by a forensics team. Keith Carradine said in a statement that the family was "profoundly disturbed by the release in Thailand of photographs taken at the scene of David Carradine's death," and threatened legal action against further distribution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torneyboy Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Yeah..good point ...hope the cops read this ., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clubsiam Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Crime scene control isn't what it is in the west. I was at the Santika Club, the morning after the fire. People all over the place, taking pictures, carrying stuff away and rummaging thru the debris. Didn't look very professional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Remember when the Russian gals got murdered in Pattaya a couple of years ago? People were all over the place gawking. So much for any footprints on the beach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torneyboy Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Yeah ..keystone cops ....TIT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun_Kong Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 I believe the family wants a no suicide ruling so that they can collect insurance. Larry King interview with family attorney (slight paraphrase): King: So, is Thailand a fourth world country? Attorney: No, it is between third world and fourth world. New TAT slogan: "Thailand, a half step better than Burma" Breaking news: Thai Rath now reporting that cause of death was anal bleeding caused by the baseball bat shoved up his ass! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun_Kong Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 They will wrap this case up..as soon as they finish the saudi gem theft, The Santika fire, the fire truck fiasco, the bus fiasco or the rubber sapling fiasco, the compost fiasco, the missing lawyer fiasco, the TAT bribe, the water drainage tunnel, bribe, cracks on the runway, the new years eve bombings, who shot Sondhi, the underwater containers mystery, the Royhingas, the Tak Bai murders, the drug war killings, ..... . Excellent! :clap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.. Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 http://www.postchronicle.com/news/original/article_212235885.shtml Cheers, SD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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