clubsiam Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 Thaksin bogus 'conviction' by politicized court. Many are quik to call Thaksin a fugitive, a convicted criminal, robbed the country blind, blah blah. If you get your news from The Nation or Bangkok Post, you are getting propaganda from the Yellow Team. Difficult time ahead for the Yellows(succession) and their PR machine has been running full steam since Thaksin took office and shook up the elite in Bangkok. The majority of Thais are coalescing against this elite clan so the Yellow team supported another coup. Thailands reputation and economy has gone down the toilet ever since that ill advised coup. Below is a synopsis of Thaksins BIG CRIME. http://www.bangkokpost.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=&t=751&sid=56b0b262d62b6edfa27eeab0e703a317#p10133 "Ever wonder why Khunying Pajamarn has not been found to be inviolation of anything in the Ratchadapisek land deal while Thaksin is found guilty of abusing his power over the same land deal? I thought the ruling was â??interestingâ? so I went on a little hunt to see what the boo-ha-ha is all about. Well, judge for yourselfâ?¦. The FIDF is an entity set up to solve financial crises in the country many years before Thaksin arrived on the political scene. This office first put this land on public auction in July 2003. There were three development companies that were interested. However, the minimum bid was too high (B870 Mil) and FIDF cancelled the auction. In November 2003, FIDF again announced sale of this land to the public via its website. Khunying Pajamarn was interested in the land for residential purposes and appointed her attorney submit a bid. The FIDF appointed two committees to supervise the bidding process, the bid acceptance committee and the price opening committee. There were 4 potential bidders. But before each potential bidder can submit a bid, their qualification must be approved by these committees. One of the potential bidders was disqualified because their attorney who submitted the bid was not properly authorized. Khunying Pajamarn (offered B772 Mil) and two others are found to be qualified. The other two were publicly listed real estate developers, Noble Development Public Co. LTD. (offered B750 Mil), and House Public Co. LTD. (offered B730 Mil). In December 2003, after the opening of the bidding price, the committee held a meeting to approve the sale to the highest bidder and the Land Sale and Purchased Agreement was signed with Khunyin Pajamarn. Also in December 2003, Thaksin, as a husband, signed the consent form required to effect the registration of the land transfer. As part of the formality of any registration of real estate requiring spousal consent, he used his official identity card. It shows his official title as Prime Minister. And this is importantâ?¦ Prior to putting down his signature, it was confirmed that the office of the Prime Minister is neither the office in charge of, nor has the authority to direct or supervise the FIDF. This is supported by the Supreme Court decision No. 4655/2533 which ruled that the FIDF is a separate and distinct juristic body independent from the Ministry of Finance and the Bank of Thailand. It has its own rights and duty in accordance with laws and regulations within the boundary of its objectives. Well, if law is law, it would appear that the sale was legally done by public auction, which means anyone can participate. I would think this includes a Prime Ministerâ??s wife as well. It would also appear that the whole process was done properly and transparently. In the bidding clauses, the FIDF even reserved the right to not sell to any one, including the highest bidder. The transaction is not an abuse of power by the office of the Prime Minister, nor is it a conflict of interest as supported by the ruling of the Supreme Court's decision. This case amplifies what I and many Thais already know. Unfortunately, we are doomed to live our lives under sensationalized rumors and highly charged fabrications where our politic is concern. Itâ??s unlikely there are efforts on any oneâ??s part to really inform the public the truth behind rumor based and politically motivated charges. I would think if there were any intention to corrupt or abuse power, it would have been much simpler and nothing to have someone else purchase the land. The Shinnawatra would not have personally involved themselves. Fact is, Khunying Pajamarn was informed she is qualified to participate and buy the land and Thaksin's office confirmed FIDF is a separate entity and not a part of the central administration. The sale and purchase was done in good faith with consideration paid and in accordance to the law......That is if Law is Law.... Hereâ??s section 100 of the Organic Act on Counter Corruption Thaksin is found to be in violation of. Section 100 Any State official shall not carry out the following acts: (1) being a party to or having interest in a contract made with a Government agency where such State official performs duties in the capacity as State official who has the power to conduct supervision, control, inspection or legal proceedings; (2) being a partner or shareholder in a partnership or company which is a party to a contract made with a Government agency where such State official performs duties in the capacity as a State official who has the power to conduct supervision, control, inspection or legal proceedings; (3) being a concessionaire or continuing to hold a concession from the State, State agency, State enterprise or local administration or being a party to contract of a directly or indirectly monopolistic nature made with the State, a Government agency, State agency, State enterprise or local administration, or being a partner or shareholder in a partnership or company which is a concessionaire or a contractual party in such manner; (4) being interested in the capacity as a director, counsel, representative, official or employee in a private business which is under supervision, control or audit of the State agency to which such State official is attached or where such State official performs duties in the capacity as State official, provided that the nature of the interest of the private business may be contrary to or inconsistent with public interest or the interest of the Government service or may affect the autonomy in the performance of duties of such State official. The positions of State officials prohibited from carrying out the activities under paragraph one shall be prescribed and published in the Government Gazette by then N.C.C Commission. The provisions of paragraph one shall apply to spouses of the State officials under paragraph two. For this purpose, the activities carried out by the spouse shall be deemed as the activities carried out by the State official. If law is law and given the circumstance surrounding the land deal, I donâ??t see how or where Thaksin abused his power and violated the law." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faustian Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 Ok, not going to read this now, but a quick point. We are in a global recession, the worst for 60 years, Thailand is an export based economy...but its markets dried up, so it has been in a dire economic state mostly due to this. I'm sure the political turmoil hasn't helped, but it isn't actually the biggest factor. Learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coss Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 Thaksin bogus 'conviction' by politicized court. Many are quik to call Thaksin a fugitive, a convicted criminal, robbed the country blind, blah blah. If you get your news from The Nation or Bangkok Post, you are getting propaganda from the Yellow Team. http://www.bangkokpost.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=&t=751&sid=56b0b262d62b6edfa27eeab0e703a317#p10133 And yet you quote the Bangkok Post? "I'm an Atheist, God help me!" Coss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clubsiam Posted June 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 No Coss, not from the Bangkok Post. A gentleman in the Bangkok Post Forum had some thoughtful comments. I was thinking the Thai 360 group might find the comment fodder for a lively, intelligent discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.. Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 If the opinion were intelligent and did not omit several key details, it might have been. But as it sits, it is pointless...as it responding to you since you've you head so far up Takky's arse you can't hear! Cheers, SD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiHome Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 Not much more to add. TH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavanami Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 Tough audience here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentors Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 full agree. Mr. T. is black sheep on these times, but in fact there are bigger ones around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pom Michael Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 The whole point (on this specific issue) is conflict of interest. Everyone was TOLD his wife is bidding - that was enough. Look at what the government minions did to ensure that the bid went her way. Check the background of the two companies (and no not the "official" owners). Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clubsiam Posted June 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 That land is worth less than he paid now. As far as I know, that's the only 'crime' he committed. That's the best excuse the Generals can come up with for throwing the country into turmoil? We can argue all day long but the bottom line is the majority of Thais (dark skined) vote for him again. Unfortunately, they have and the elite wont have it. They shouldn't get a full vote, their stupid and paid to vote...blah, blah..right? Plain and simple. The yellow team doesn't want him around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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