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Stickman on "Changes in Bangkok Nightlife"


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PS Please change your avatar as it is in violation of the board's rules on nudity.

There's a rule on nudity? I'd better get dressed then... :elephant:

 

WRT Tattoos: I have a deep-seated aversion to girls with tattoos, but they are increasingly popular with Western pop stars, actresses and models - and Thai-see, Thai-do - but I wonder if these days there isn't a certain rebellious pride sneaking in to the GGG psyche, they are after all pretty high up the earnings ladder and increasing in numbers I might imagine. I shall have to make enquiries... :hmmm:

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I have a deep-seated aversion to girls with tattoos' date=' but they are increasingly popular with Western pop stars, actresses and models - [/quote']

 

Which does only prove tattoos are a low class syndrome

 

At one time tattoos where very popular with the european upper classes King George V had them for example. A lot of its just what happens to be fashion at a particular time.

Like wise I know a lot of expats in asia who hav'nt lived in the UK for say 20 years who try to say/or think that only thugs and morons have shaved heads or close cropped hair. More generalised bollocks I'm afraid! Its now extremely common and acceptable for men from all classes to have that particular hairstyle especially if they are starting to go a bit thin on top. I know many who do including doctors, lawyers, teachers and investment bankers etc etc.

Simie.

 

 

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My two or more satang:

 

1. His weekly reports are better and more insightful. It's a mixed bag here, meaning life in Thailand is not a TAT commercial. What I don't understand is the immediate, without any real thought or reflection, attack on anything that might be considered negative about Thailand. Why?

 

2. I also don't understand is the comment: "doing the passive-aggressive WESTERN JOURNALISM thing". Does that actually mean anything? I don't think so. To me, it sounds like words without meaning. Whenever you hear this sort of polemical nonsense, pause for a moment and take a bullshit reading. This rates about 8 on a 1 to 10 scale when you take that reading.

 

3. Some of the comments about Stickman were obviously personal and totally inappropriate. KS is right: they don't belong here. But more important, it means he struck a nerve, and you have to ask "why?" That is the question that never gets answered. Why?

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I read stickman's column and in general I agree with much of what he said - I have been going to Thailand since the early 1990's and though I know it sounds geezerlike - to me the attitudes of the girls are vastly more mercenary, the tattoos in much more abundance, the girls not as good looking (at least in the go-go bars/beer bars) as I think the hotties have found easier money elsewhere and the prices higher (though I guess that is complex as you have to weigh in inflation and various exchange rates).

 

Two things I don't think he mentioned though is 1) the slow death of the freelancer scene which is getting pitiful and used to be amazing - but on the positive side 2) Thai girls have gotten sexually much much more proficient. Back in the early 90's it was all about tugging the sheets off the girls and trying to talk them into a nitnoy smoke before boom-boom. Now girls come in - rip their clothes off, take a shower and are waiting naked on the bed for you and it is pretty rare when I don't get a very decent smoke. Many have told me they watch porn to learn. Yay for porn! But after the deed is done, they are often dressed and ready to go before I had a chance to blink my eyes. In the old days they would stick around if you wanted them to. Everything changes and as Thailand becomes more "westernized", so will their sex industry over time - at least the part that caters to farangs.

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Has any one heard the phrase "the good old days".

 

Things change. I think it would be much more noteworthy to write about if nothing had changed. The staggering number of variables that are involved in noting the 'changes' is incomprehensible. The author himself has changed over the years while forming the opinion.

 

I mean come on...think just for a second of all of the changes that make a trip to the LOS much easier. Pricing rooms on the internet, communication back home, trip stories that can be researched online, cellphones, etc. Some of these vary conveniences are the source of changes noted by the author. To focus in on the nightlife industry and note the changes and form a better or worse opinion is a simply a bore.

 

It's like sitting around and debating who is better ali or tyson, sugar ray leonard or sugar ray robinson, and on and on.

 

Things are different because we are living in a different time and it's incalculable to point the finger how deep the root of change is. The answer to the 'WHY?' question is quite simple.

 

EVERYTHING has changed. It will continue to change and you along with it.

 

Enjoy it for what it is, not for what it was or what it will be.

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