Usa Thread

[BelgianBoy]

The carrier that China has was bought from a former Soviet satellite and re-fitted with a Chinese engine. That's a long way from building up their arsenal with Chinese built battleships.

and it happens they now have an aircraftcarrier, but no planes yet :elephant:

[Steve]

I dont think Europe, America or any govt is underestimating China. They are all trying tn figure out how to deal with it.

[Steve]

China is presently doing what all emerging powers do. Solidify its power in its own region. Then eventually expand. First and foremost is to modernise domestically. Get its infrastructure up to par.

[unit731]

"In the six decades since People’s Liberation Army troops invaded Tibet, China’s Communist Party has been unable to destroy Tibetans’ national identity or devotion to their leader, the Dalai Lama. It is not for lack of trying. In the quest to transform Tibet, China has launched Marxist campaigns against religion and the Dalai Lama himself; tortured monks, nuns, and lay people; created a permanent military presence; confiscated rare minerals and resources; and inundated Tibet with ethnic Han Chinese. In the diplomatic arena, Beijing claims Tibet as a “core interest†and rebuffs foreign concerns as interference in China’s internal affairs. In neighboring Nepal, Beijing is trying to end Kathmandu’s historic role as a way station for Tibetan refugees on their way to India and to clamp down on Nepal’s own well-established Tibetan refugee community."

 

 

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[kamui]

"In the six decades since People’s Liberation Army troops invaded Tibet, China’s Communist Party has been unable to destroy Tibetans’ national identity or devotion to their leader, the Dalai Lama. It is not for lack of trying. In the quest to transform Tibet, China has launched Marxist campaigns against religion and the Dalai Lama himself; tortured monks, nuns, and lay people; created a permanent military presence; confiscated rare minerals and resources; and inundated Tibet with ethnic Han Chinese. In the diplomatic arena, Beijing claims Tibet as a “core interest†and rebuffs foreign concerns as interference in China’s internal affairs. In neighboring Nepal, Beijing is trying to end Kathmandu’s historic role as a way station for Tibetan refugees on their way to India and to clamp down on Nepal’s own well-established Tibetan refugee community."

 

 

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No, Unit, they won't send the carrier to Tibet.

[Guest lazyphil]

and it happens they now have an aircraftcarrier, but no planes yet :elephant:

 

the uk has the opposite, maybe we can merge forces!!!

[Flashermac]

Assange mocks Obama via video at U.N. event

 

 

(Reuters) - WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, speaking via a choppy video feed from his virtual house arrest in London, lashed out at U.S. President Barack Obama on Wednesday for supporting freedom of speech in the Middle East while simultaneously "persecuting" his organization for leaking diplomatic cables.

 

Assange, who has been holed up in the Ecuadorean Embassy since June to avoid extradition, made the comments at a packed event on the sidelines of the United Nations General Assembly.

 

Assange, who has been holed up in the Ecuadorean Embassy since June to avoid extradition, made the comments at a packed event on the sidelines of the United Nations General Assembly.

 

Assange mocked Obama for defending free speech in the Arab world in an address to the United Nations on Tuesday, pointing to his own experience as evidence that Obama has "done more to criminalize free speech than any other U.S. president."

 

"It must have come as a surprise to the Egyptian teenagers who washed American teargas out of their eyes (during the Arab Spring) to hear that the U.S. supported change in the Middle East," Assange said.

 

"It's time for President Obama to keep his word ... and for the U.S. to cease its persecution of WikiLeaks," he said.

 

Assange's combative comments, plus statements made by Ecuadorean Foreign Minister Ricardo Patino and his other allies at the event, suggested no solution is in sight to the diplomatic standoff surrounding the 41-year-old Australian.

 

British authorities have surrounded the Ecuadorean Embassy and said if Assange sets foot outside, they will arrest him and extradite him to Sweden to face rape and sexual assault allegations.

 

Assange's lawyers and Ecuador's government fear that could lead in turn to extradition to the United States, where they say he would face "inhumane" prison conditions and even the death penalty.

 

Assange, who looked to be in good health as he sat at a desk in front of a bookshelf and addressed the 150 or so people at the event, said Britain and Sweden have so far refused to provide guarantees he would not be extradited to the United States.

 

U.S. and European government sources have countered that the United States has issued no criminal charges or launched any attempts to extradite Assange.

 

IN BRITAIN'S COURT

 

Patino is scheduled to meet with British Foreign Secretary William Hague in New York on Thursday to discuss Assange, and he said there are "multiple paths" that could lead out of the standoff. Yet, in an interview with Reuters following the U.N. event, Patino made clear that Ecuador is not willing to cede much ground.

 

"The ball's in their court right now," Patino said.

 

Patino held in his hands a mimeographed copy of an 1880 agreement signed between Britain and Ecuador, which he said prohibits extradition in cases such as Assange's. He said he would show the document to Hague on Thursday.

 

Patino rigorously defended Ecuador's decision to grant political asylum to Assange, expressing disbelief that Britain is "determined" to arrest the former computer hacker even though he said there are no criminal charges against him. "This means you have reason to suspect he's being persecuted," Patino said.

 

He said Assange is in relatively good spirits but expressed concern his physical and psychological condition could deteriorate.

 

"I think of myself, how I'd react in that situation, not being able to go outside, being isolated," Patino said. "It's practically like being jailed."

 

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[kamui]

the uk has the opposite, maybe we can merge forces!!!

 

France has a nuclear-powered carrier

which sometimes is even operable.

 

 

[Flashermac]

U.S. military declares Assange 'enemy of the state'

 

 

The U.S. military has designated Julian Assange and WikiLeaks as enemies of the United States — the same legal category as the al-Qaeda terrorist network and the Taliban insurgency.

 

Declassified US Air Force counter-intelligence documents, released under US freedom-of-information laws, reveal that military personnel who contact WikiLeaks or WikiLeaks supporters may be at risk of being charged with "communicating with the enemy", a military crime that carries a maximum sentence of death.

 

The documents, some originally classified "Secret/NoForn" — not releasable to non-US nationals — record a probe by the air force's Office of Special Investigations into a cyber systems analyst based in Britain who allegedly expressed support for WikiLeaks and attended pro-Assange demonstrations in London.

 

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[BelgianBoy]

The U.S. military has designated Julian Assange and WikiLeaks as enemies of the United States — the same legal category as the al-Qaeda terrorist network and the Taliban insurgency.

well they know exactly where he is, will they also send a SEAL team in then, same same Osama....?