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[Bangkoktraveler]

Thousands of New IRS Agents Hired to Enforce Obamacare

 

Rep. Kevin Brady, a Texas Republican, warns that the IRS will hire up to 16,500 new enforcers in the coming months to go after citizens who do not pay the new Obamacare tax. The expansion is said to include criminal investigators who “make cases†in order to levy penalties on scofflaws.

 

Brady cites a recent analysis by the Joint Economic Committee and staff at the House Ways and Means Committee. The report says the IRS will need a fresh crop of agents to examine and audit tax information mandated by Obama’s misnamed Affordable Care Act.

 

In January of 2011, Rep. Michele Bachmann claimed the IRS planned to hire 16,500 IRS agents to police Obamacare compliance. CNN reported at the time that the number cited by the Minnesota Congresswoman originated in a GOP committee report, based on a preliminary estimate from the Congressional Budget Office...

 

http://www.infowars.com/thousands-of-new-irs-agents-to-be-hired-to-enforce-obamacare/

 

I don't think the IRS arrests and put in prison many people each year.... they just seize assets without due process and even

go to the point of getting judgments without due process to seize as much as 15% of a person's Social Security benefits.

 

I don't think things will get better.

[unit731]

Hey, before posting erroneous statistics and data, how about actually verifying such? Eh?

 

 

"FULL QUESTION

 

Dear FactCheck: Can you verify this statement in the article at US News and World Report that the IRS "will need an battalion of 1,054 new auditors and staffers and new facilities at a cost to taxpayers of more than $359 million in fiscal 2012 just to watch over the initial implementation of President Obama’s healthcare reforms."

 

FULL ANSWER

 

The IRS is actually asking for more new workers than reported in an article by U.S. News and World Report — a story that has generated a lot of Internet buzz after being picked up by news outlets, such as Fox News and The Daily Caller. The IRS budget request for fiscal year 2012 shows that the agency is seeking at least 1,269 full-time equivalent employees (FTEs) at a cost of $473 million to help implement the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.

 

But many of them are needed to deliver new tax credits, not to dun taxpayers. The agency is seeking to add 291 "revenue agents" — most of them (193) to "ensure accurate delivery of tax credits." The agency’s technology staff would see the biggest increase with the addition of 537 IT program analysts and specialists.

 

Still, Republican Sen. John Barrasso of Wyoming mischaracterized the IRS budget request in an interview on Fox News, falsely suggesting that all of the new hires will be auditing taxpayers."

 

 

LINK

[Bangkoktraveler]

Hey, before posting erroneous statistics and data, how about actually verifying such? Eh?

 

 

"FULL QUESTION

 

Dear FactCheck: Can you verify this statement in the article at US News and World Report that the IRS "will need an battalion of 1,054 new auditors and staffers and new facilities at a cost to taxpayers of more than $359 million in fiscal 2012 just to watch over the initial implementation of President Obama’s healthcare reforms."

 

FULL ANSWER

 

The IRS is actually asking for more new workers than reported in an article by U.S. News and World Report — a story that has generated a lot of Internet buzz after being picked up by news outlets, such as Fox News and The Daily Caller. The IRS budget request for fiscal year 2012 shows that the agency is seeking at least 1,269 full-time equivalent employees (FTEs) at a cost of $473 million to help implement the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.

 

But many of them are needed to deliver new tax credits, not to dun taxpayers. The agency is seeking to add 291 "revenue agents" — most of them (193) to "ensure accurate delivery of tax credits." The agency’s technology staff would see the biggest increase with the addition of 537 IT program analysts and specialists.

 

Still, Republican Sen. John Barrasso of Wyoming mischaracterized the IRS budget request in an interview on Fox News, falsely suggesting that all of the new hires will be auditing taxpayers."

 

 

LINK

 

 

1054 auditors - their primary duties are to bring in revenue via an audit.

 

As far as tax credits - if a tax payer can't figure out a tax credit - don't expect

a revenue agent to help you.

 

as far as I am concerned - auditors are at the bottom of the food chain.

Tax collectors are at the bottom.

[Bangkoktraveler]

A few years ago IRS Collectors were issued 'sawed off' shotguns.

 

I don't think their usage is to help us.

[unit731]

A few years ago IRS Collectors were issued 'sawed off' shotguns.

 

I don't think their usage is to help us.

 

 

Ya, right.

 

And I am really a 'handsome man' !!

 

Heck, every gal I have met in LOS tells me so. It must be true !

[unit731]

1054 auditors - their primary duties are to bring in revenue via an audit.

 

As far as tax credits - if a tax payer can't figure out a tax credit - don't expect

a revenue agent to help you.

 

as far as I am concerned - auditors are at the bottom of the food chain.

Tax collectors are at the bottom.

 

 

Tax credits and rebates.

[unit731]

Washington takeover of our health care.

 

FACT: PolitiFact dubbed the characterization of health care as a government takeover the 2010 Lie of the Year.

 

REP. PAUL BROUN (R-GA): The whole of Obamacare is geared to force everybody out of private insurance into public insurance policy.

 

FACT: PolitiFact points out that the law is "at its heart, a system that relies on private companies and the free market."

 

REP. PAUL BROUN (R-GA): Obamacare. Obamacare, Madame Speaker, is going to kill jobs in America.

 

FACT: Multiple sources have reported that the health care law doesn't destroy jobs; it actually creates them.

 

REP. ERIC CANTOR (R-VA): Their proposal blows a hole in the deficit, ours actually saves money.

 

FACT: According to the Congressional Budget Office, the health care law would reduce the deficit and the Republicans' plan to repeal the law would add $230 billion to the deficit.

 

GOV. HALEY BARBOUR (R-MS): We can try to make sure that appropriated money cannot be used to further this — not to hire those 16,000 IRS agents that we found out after the fact were going to be needed to enforce this law that the Democrats like to think that everybody's gonna love. If everybody's gonna love it, why do you need 16-17,000 new IRS agents to enforce it?

 

FACT: FactCheck.org called the IRS claim "wildly inaccurate."

 

REP. PAUL RYAN (R-WI): When you take away the smoke and the mirrors, this thing has a $701 billion deficit.

 

FACT: The Congressional Budget Office said the health care law reduces the deficit and does not use "smoke and mirrors" to do so.

 

SEN. JOHN BARRASSO (R-WY): This health care law that Harry Reid loves, that the President is going to try to take credit for tomorrow, they took 500 billion dollars from our seniors on Medicare.

 

FACT: The supposed cuts in Medicare are really reductions in the growth of future spending over 10 years.

 

SEN. JOHN BARRASSO (R-WY): It's bad for patients and they know it, it's bad for providers, the nurses and the doctors that take care of patients, and they know it.

 

FACT: The health care law includes many provisions that benefit patients, as well as providers.

 

REP. MICHELE BACHMANN (R-MN): We discovered that secretly, unbeknownst to members of Congress, over 105 billion dollars was hidden in the Obamacare legislation to fund the implementation of Obamacare. This is something that wasn't known. This money was broken up, hidden in various parts of the bills.

 

FACT: Several sources debunked the claim that there was money "hidden" in the health care law.

Check out our fact sheets to learn about the benefits the Affordable Care Act provides to small businesses, seniors,consumers, women and young adults.

 

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[TheCorinthian]

A few years ago IRS Collectors were issued 'sawed off' shotguns.

 

I don't think their usage is to help us.

 

Source?

[Flashermac]

The Tombstone Times.

 

 

 

 

 

[gobbledonk]

Gotta love this quote from Uncle Ted:

 

In a Romney stump speech at the 2012 NRA Convention in St. Louis, Nugent said, "If Barack Obama becomes the president in November, again, I will either be dead or in jail by this time next year." He also compared the Obama administration to coyotes who needed to be shot, and encouraged voters to "chop [Democrats'] heads off in November."[60] Nugent received a visit from the Secret Service for these remarks.

 

Ted, its just as well you can play a guitar, old mate, or you would have been in jail/dead long before this. Michiganiacs must be wondering if old Ted spent a little too long out in the woods - I know I am.