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[Flashermac]

The same way they do in Thailand, where it is extremely difficult to purchase a firearm ... uh legally.

[unit731]

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<< Last night it also emerged Nancy was a member of the Doomsday Preppers movement, which believes people should prepare for end of the world. >>

 

Just your typical, average American family.

 

 

http://www.dailymail...Adam-Lanza.html

 

 

The kid may have been nuts. The autopsy may show prescription drug use or some form of autism.

This alone does not make the vast majority of people nuts.

But this country is over medcated. Pills. Pills. Pills. Or maybe he stopped taking his pills.

 

Still too early to know factually if this woman was involved with Doomsday Preppers.

 

I do see folks around here that constantly listen to Glenn Beck and Alex Jones and other obscure radio personalities that espouse some sort of massive government big business United Nations conspiracy. That the world as we know it will end shortly. That all should gear up for the imminent apocalypse.

 

One neighbor of mine is buying guns. Rifles and hand guns. Ammunition. Cases of tuna fish. Cases of all sorts of dried foods. Bags of crop seed. Mortgaged his home to buy silver and gold.

 

Unfortunately some people really believe that armageddon is coming soon. Combine that with some sort of mental illness. And tradegy manifests itself.

 

"Rebuttal: Doomsday Preppers are Socially Selfish

 

This Friday morning I was sad to discover an article on emergency management.com in the “Disaster Academia†section entitled Doomsday Preppers are Socially Selfish. It amazes me how someone in emergency management that claims through her “academic†title to be intelligent fails to grasp how preppers actually contribute to safer communities."

 

 

 

LINK

[TroyinEwa/Perv]

The same way they do in Thailand, where it is extremely difficult to purchase a firearm ... uh legally.

 

How is that? And remember, part of zero ownership is getting rid of the already flooded market. How?

[cavanami]

Can you throw the bullshit flag...

 

Hillary Clinton faints, has concussion

 

 

U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton sustained a concussion after becoming dehydrated and fainting, and will no longer testify Thursday before the House Foreign Affairs Committee on the deadly attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya.

Clinton had been suffering from a stomach virus at the time, according to a statement on Saturday from Philippe Reines, deputy assistant secretary of state.

She is being monitored by doctors and is recovering at home. She was never hospitalized, Reines said....

 

 

Wouldn't want her to have to accept any responsibility for the latest fuck up she is RESPONSIBLE for...

 

maybe RESPONSIBLE is now a four letter word

[Steve]

I've always imagined what I would do if there was some cataclysmic event like the show The Walking Dead or any one of those movies where something happens to the earth like a meteor that darkens everwhere for a few years.

 

I'd definitely stock up on guns. My plan would be to get to one of those tiny islands in the caribbean near the Bahamas. There are tons of them. Guns, canned goods, and I would invite an engineer, survivalist, doctor and at least 2 young hot girls for each guy. Really, that's my plan.

[dean]

An insult to every Vietnam Veteran ...

 

Obama has chosen John Kerry as Secretary of State

 

 

http://www.suntimes.com/17019560-761/source-obama-has-chosen-john-kerry-as-secretary-of-state.html With Clinton (the draft dodger) and Bush (let's save East Texas and Louisiana from North Vietnam) becoming President, how is Kerry's appointment any worse? At least he has extensive experience in foreign affairs, being chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations committee. Plus, being a Senator he will have no problem going through the confirmation process, which is the main reason Obama appointed him.

[dean]

I've always imagined what I would do if there was some cataclysmic event like the show The Walking Dead or any one of those movies where something happens to the earth like a meteor that darkens everwhere for a few years.

 

I'd definitely stock up on guns. My plan would be to get to one of those tiny islands in the caribbean near the Bahamas. There are tons of them. Guns, canned goods, and I would invite an engineer, survivalist, doctor and at least 2 young hot girls for each guy. Really, that's my plan.

If you are on an island I think I would rather have the island surrounded by water mines and a few bazookas to shoot down helicopters. I'm sure that this has been made into a TV show. If not, hire an agent and start pitching it to the networks. Its a better idea than half of the crap on TV now.

[Flashermac]

If I'm on an island, it would have gals like these - and not the guys!

 

[unit731]

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I'd definitely stock up on guns. My plan would be to get to one of those tiny islands in the caribbean near the Bahamas. There are tons of them. Guns, canned goods, and I would invite an engineer, survivalist, doctor and at least 2 young hot girls for each guy. Really, that's my plan.

 

Are the engineer and survivalist female?

[Flashermac]

Attorney General Secretly Granted Gov. Ability to Develop and Store Dossiers on Innocent Americans

 

 

In a secret government agreement granted without approval or debate from lawmakers, the U.S. attorney general recently gave the National Counterterrorism Center sweeping new powers to store dossiers on U.S. citizens, even if they are not suspected of a crime, according to a news report.

 

Earlier this year, Attorney General Eric Holder granted the center the ability to copy entire government databases holding information on flight records, casino-employee lists, the names of Americans hosting foreign-exchange students and other data, and to store it for up to five years, even without suspicion that someone in the database has committed a crime, according to the Wall Street Journal, which broke the story.

 

Whereas previously the law prohibited the center from storing data compilations on U.S. citizens unless they were suspected of terrorist activity or were relevant to an ongoing terrorism investigation, the new powers give the center the ability to not only collect and store vast databases of information but also to trawl through and analyze it for suspicious patterns of behavior in order to uncover activity that could launch an investigation.

 

The changes granted by Holder would also allow databases containing information about U.S. citizens to be shared with foreign governments for their own analysis.

 

A former senior White House official told the Journal that the new changes were “breathtaking in scope.â€

 

But counterterrorism officials tried to downplay the move by telling the Journal that the changes come with strict guidelines about how the data can be used.

 

“The guidelines provide rigorous oversight to protect the information that we have, for authorized and narrow purposes,†Alexander Joel, Civil Liberties Protection Officer for the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, told the paper.

 

The NCTC currently maintains the Terrorist Identities Datamart Environment database, or TIDE, which holds data on more than 500,000 identities suspected of terror activity or terrorism links, including friends and families of suspects, and is the basis for the FBI’s terrorist watchlist.

 

Under the new rules issued in March, the NCTC can now obtain almost any other government database that it claims is “reasonably believed†to contain “terrorism information.†This could conceivably include collections of financial forms submitted by people seeking federally backed mortgages or even the health records of anyone who sought mental or physical treatment at government-run hospitals, such as Veterans Administration facilities, the paper notes.

 

The Obama administration’s new rules come after previous surveillance proposals were struck down during the Bush administration, following widespread condemnation.

 

In 2002, the Pentagon’s Total Information Awareness program proposed to scrutinize both government and private databases, but public outrage killed the program in essence, though not in spirit. Although Congress de-funded the program in 2003, the NSA continued to collect and sift through immense amounts of data about who Americans spoke with, where they traveled and how they spent their money.

 

The Federal Privacy Act prohibits government agencies from sharing data for any purpose other than the reason for which the data was initially collected, in order to prevent the creation of dossiers, but agencies can do an end-run around this restriction by posting a notice in the Federal Register, providing justification for the data request. Such notices are rarely seen or contested, however.

 

The changes to the rules for the NCTC were sought in large part after authorities failed to catch Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab before he boarded a plane on Christmas Day in 2009 with explosives sewn into his underwear. Abdulmutallab wasn’t on the FBI watchlist, but the NCTC had received tips about him, and yet failed to search other government databases to connect dots that might have helped prevent him from boarding the plane.

 

As the NCTC tried to remedy that situation for later suspects, legal obstacles emerged, the Journal reports, since the center was only allowed to query federal databases for a specific name or a specific passenger list. “They couldn’t look through the databases trolling for general ‘patterns,’†the paper notes.

 

But the request to expand the center’s powers led to a heated debate at the White House and the Department of Homeland Security, with Mary Ellen Callahan, then-chief privacy officer for the Department of Homeland Security, leading the charge to defend civil liberties. Callahan argued that the new rules represented a “sea change†and that every interaction a citizen would have with the government in the future would be ruled by the underlying question, is that person a terrorist?

 

Callahan lost her battle, however, and subsequently left her job, though it’s not known if her struggle over the NCTC debate played a role in her decision to leave.

 

 

http://www.wired.com...on-us-citizens/