Flashermac Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 Sorry about your house, folks. http://www.infowars.com/lapd-audio-from-dorner-siege-burn-this-motherfucker/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 It was just "work place violence", like the place I worked in 1969-70. http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/fort-hood-hero-obama-betrayed-victims/story?id=18465024 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unit731 Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 "The Myth of Voter Fraud Allegations of voter fraud generate big headlines, especially around election time. The rest of the story, however, rarely gets the same kind of attention. We rarely hear that nearly all claims of voter fraud prove to be unfounded. Nonetheless, claims of fraud continue and appear to promote an agenda that would make it difficult for some to exercise their right to vote. Learn the facts about voter fraud! Myth: Voter fraud is rampant in our elections, casting doubt on the legitimacy of the winner. Fact: Actual cases of fraud are rare. There have been many investigations, but few cases have been substantiated. Then-Secretary of State Mary Kiffmeyer reported that only 14 people out of approximately 2,800,000 voters fraudulently cast ballots during the 2004 election in Minnesota– a fraud rate of .0005 percent. Myth: There is no way to know if voter fraud is occurring. The number of fraudulent ballots could be much larger than we know. Fact: Each voter has a “voter history†record that is updated after every election. If it appears that a person voted in more than one precinct, if a voter who used same-day registration does not live where he or she claimed, or if a county official has reason to believe that a voter is ineligible, it would be detected in this updating process. Any questionable record is referred to the county attorney for investigation. For more information on how voting records are maintained and verified, read Understanding Elections. Myth: Without photo identification requirements in place, voter fraud must be taking place. Fact: A photo ID requirement could only prevent voter impersonation. MN has never had a case of voter impersonation. In order to do this without being detected, one would need to (1) have the name of a registered voter they were certain would not show up at the polls without the election judges or one of the other voters knowing the person they are impersonating, (2) go to that voter’s neighborhood precinct and lie about their identity without being discovered, and (3) commit perjury in order to cast a ballot. It is hard to fathom why anyone would attempt to do this, given the risk of a felony conviction and the infinitesimal chance of changing an election result. Myth: Everyone has photo ID. It’s not a problem to show it on Election Day. Fact: Obtaining a current ID can be a huge burden for the frail elderly, people with disabilities, those with low incomes, and young adults. It is not just cost, but transportation and the logistics of obtaining the ID that is a problem for many. A Brennan Center for Justice survey found that 11% of U.S. citizens lack a valid photo ID. 18% of people over 65 do not have a current government-issued ID. " LINK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 My voting place for a few years was in the sexton's office at a cemetery. I always thought that was a bit ... Chicago-ish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unit731 Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 It was just "work place violence", like the place I worked in 1969-70. http://abcnews.go.co...ory?id=18465024 Judge, jury, and executioner. No sense in wasting taxpayers money for a trial. Hey, just let the drones fly around and do all. No warrant. No judicial action. No nothing. Just kill the bad US citizens. What's wrong with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 The guy was a scumbag, but if I were the home owner I'd be decidedly pissed off. Smoking him out is one thing. Barbecuing him is quite another. Is this the new way to deal with a situation? Torch the place! Better hope you are never a hostage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unit731 Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 The guy was a scumbag, but if I were the home owner I'd be decidedly pissed off. Smoking him out is one thing. Barbecuing him is quite another. Is this the new way to deal with a situation? Torch the place! Better hope you are never a hostage. WHO . . . makes the determination that . . . that guy in that shack . . . is a scumbag? The first COP that shows up? At least Judge Roy Bean gave all a fair trial . . . . then hung them all ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 << WHO . . . makes the determination that . . . that guy in that shack . . . is a scumbag? >> You were a grunt. If someone shot at you, did you call out "Stop, alleged VC" and read him his rights? Dorner was charged with killing a woman, her fiance, a policeman and a sheriff's deputy, plus wounding others and had held two women hostage. He'd been trained as a police sniper and said he expected to die. He was very dangerous. Even so, intentionally torching the house was over the top. That was taking the easy way out. p.s. Dorner called up Monica Quan's father and taunted him about murdering his daughter. Mr Nice Guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCorinthian Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 The guy was a scumbag, but if I were the home owner I'd be decidedly pissed off. Smoking him out is one thing. Barbecuing him is quite another. Is this the new way to deal with a situation? Torch the place! Better hope you are never a hostage. You of all people should know the danger of 2nd guessing the men on the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 From the police radio calls I've heard, there seems to have been no intention to try anything else. Can't blame them, but it is likely to gain the guy some sympathy. He doesn't deserve any. I am already seeing criticism on the news. p.s. Very obvious that he shot himself. Good riddance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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