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[Flashermac]

Situation Normal, All Fucked Up

 

It's moving to FUBAR now. SNAFU was the good old days.

 

 

Trump Just Quietly Replaced Our Nation’s Top Military Advisors With Steve Bannon

 

 

Donald Trump’s executive order targeting refugees and immigrants may have only been the second most disastrous decision he made this weekend.

 

On Saturday, Trump quietly demoted the Joint Chiefs of Staff and Director of National Intelligence from his National Security Council and replaced them with his controversial personal advisor, Steve Bannon. The JCS and DNI are the two leading adivisory positions on the council, making their demotion much, much more than symbolic.

 

The decision means the nation’s most vital national security decisions will now be filtered through a political appointee with ties to the Alt Right movement and who just a few months ago was running a highly partisan news web site. The Joint Chiefs of Staff, who have always sat in on NSC briefings, will now only attend meetings that directly involve, "issues pertaining to their responsibilities and expertise are to be discussed," according to Trump’s order.

 

The move sent shock waves through the intelligence community and was blasted by prominent figures including Sen. John McCain and former Defense Secretary Robert Gates, both Republicans.

 

“I am worried about the National Security Council. Who are the members of it and who are the permanent members?†McCain said in an interview with CBS’s “Face the Nation†on Sunday. “The appointment of Mr. Bannon is something which is a radical departure from any National Security Council in history."

 

“I think pushing them out of the National Security Council meetings, except when their specific issues are at stake, is a big mistake," Gates added in an interview with ABC’s “This Week†on Sunday. "I think that they both bring a perspective and judgment and experience to bear that every president, whether they like it or not, finds useful."

 

The shocking decision further aggravates public and private tensions between Trump and the intelligence community. As Gates noted, it’s not unusual for members to be added to the NSC, but taking away two central voices, particularly the Joint Chiefs of Staff, is truly unprecedented and will limit the input of experienced voices advising Trump as he charts the nation’s course on international affairs.

 

Even more disturbing is that while much of the world rightfully focuses on Trump’s attempts to bar refugees and legal immigrants from entering the U.S., very little attention is being paid to the NSC move. It’s understandable on the surface, as the very human individual faces of refugees makes for a more emotionally compelling narrative than the complex rigors of federal bureaucracy. But however inflammatory, the refugee issue is likely to quickly sort itself out through court injunctions and a massive, growing public outcry.

 

Meanwhile, there is almost nothing anyone can do about Trump’s decision to limit, and heavily skew, the level of expertise he allows to filter through the NSC.

 

And because those are the decisions that so often create refugees, rather than simply deciding where they can and can’t go, it should be all the more upsetting to people paying attention to how this new administration’s policies are already having an impact around the globe.

 

 

 

https://www.good.is/...chiefs-of-staff

[Flashermac]

The Trump administration is standing firm over its ban on immigration from seven countries despite court rulings and mass protests against it.

 

In a statement, President Trump said visas would once again be issued once "the most secure policies" were in place, and denied it was a Muslim ban.

 

The move has been widely condemned.

 

Sixteen state attorneys general have said the order is unconstitutional. Several federal judges have temporarily halted the deportation of visa holders.

 

Mr Trump's executive order, signed on Friday, halted the entire US refugee programme for 120 days, indefinitely banned Syrian refugees, and suspended all nationals from seven Muslim-majority countries.

 

Those who were already mid-flight were detained on arrival - even if they held valid US visas or other immigration permits. It is not known how many others were turned away at airports overseas as they tried to board flights to the US.

 

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In a joint statement, 16 attorneys general, from states including California, New York and Pennsylvania, said they would "use all of the tools of our offices to fight this unconstitutional order" and, until it was struck down, would "work to ensure that as few people as possible suffer from the chaotic situation that it has created".

 

Late on Saturday, federal Judge Ann Donnelly, in New York, ruled against the removal from the US of people with approved refugee applications, valid visas, and "other individuals... legally authorised to enter the United States".

 

She was ruling on a case brought on behalf of two Iraqi men with links to the US military who were detained at JFK Airport in New York, who were later released.

 

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http://www.bbc.com/n...canada-38790629

 

 

I'll never complain about Thai immigration again. (Well, at least not for a while anyway.)

[Coss]

It would seem that what everybody feared would come to pass, is coming to pass, Trump is a rogue.

[BelgianBoy]

It would seem that what everybody feared would come to pass, is coming to pass, Trump is a rogue.

he is keeping his election promises.........

[waerth]

A Belgian Steve Bannon Boy ...... waiting for you to give your Breitbart links to support your alternative facts.

[BelgianBoy]

A Belgian Steve Bannon Boy ...... waiting for you to give your Breitbart links to support your alternative facts.

xxxxx(removed personal insult - Mod), I have no need for your stupid insults.

I only stated the obvious that he is keeping his promises.

And again, what you fail (or dont want) to understand, is that I am not a Trump-fan at all.

Capiche ?

 

BB

[Coss]

WASHINGTON—Putting the nation on alert against what it has described as a “highly credible terrorist threat,†the FBI announced today that it has uncovered a plot by members of al-Qaeda to sit back and enjoy themselves while the United States collapses of its own accord.

 

Multiple intelligence agencies confirmed that the militant Islamist organization and its numerous affiliates intend to carry out a massive, coordinated plan to stand aside and watch America’s increasingly rapid decline, with terrorist operatives across the globe reportedly mobilizing to take it easy, relax, and savor the spectacle as it unfolds.

 

more at http://bit.ly/1dY0AcR

[waerth]

xxxxx(removed personal insult - Mod), I have no need for your stupid insults.

I only stated the obvious that he is keeping his promises.

And again, what you fail (or dont want) to understand, is that I am not a Trump-fan at all.

Capiche ?

 

BB

 

Well it didn't happen here. But you on my facebook using sites like Breitbart to underwrite your argument and your praise for Geert Wilders. Are amongst two of the things that makes me think you are squarely in the Trump camp. Also your repeated defense of Trump.

 

So I am kinda surprised to hear you say you are not a Trump fanboy.

[BelgianBoy]

Well it didn't happen here. But you on my facebook using sites like Breitbart to underwrite your argument and your praise for Geert Wilders. Are amongst two of the things that makes me think you are squarely in the Trump camp. Also your repeated defense of Trump.

 

So I am kinda surprised to hear you say you are not a Trump fanboy.

no, I did not use any website you mentioned on your FB, and no, I do not need you to tell me what you think, and yes, Wilders is way smarter than Trump is.

 

(remark removed - Mod - poster, this is getting tiresome, no personal insults).

 

BB

[buffalo_bill]

The idea that the Queen has to shake hands with this piece of crap later this year makes me sick .