Steve Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 Not just oil, but all kinds of minerals. China needs everything. Its reminiscent of America in the 1800s up to the mid 1900s. Voracious apetite to fuel growth and demand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bust Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 look at the aussie fuck up at gallipoli Yeah right LP While the eventual blame for the disaster lies at Winston Churchill's feet he wasn't alone. The British military had made only a passing, limited survey of the invasion territory. The ground maps of the land were inaccurately drawn on board British Navy ships sailing a safe distance from the Gallipoli shore, by simply visually scanning the shore & drawing what little they saw. So when the troops attempted to utilize the maps they found the maps lacked all the ground detail necessary to plot their advances. At one point the maps showed a clear route to the target settlements. Yet when the ANZACS attempted to go that route they found the way blocked by a steep, sharp ridge that dropped quite a long distance downward & which extended, lengthwise also quite a ways. Nicknamed The Razor's Edge, the drop was completely unobservable from offshore, leaving the ANZAC troops exposed and to navigate unknown hostile territory on their own. The military's ignorance of the harsh nature of the land coupled with the heat & eventual spread of disease decimated the troups. So while the planner of the invasion Churchill deserves much of the blame, there was definitely blame to go around amonst the British Navy. Aussie Fuck Up or British Incompitance? I'll go with the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lazyphil Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 whatever.i'm sure all the american wars you cite were not all the americas fault, but hey, carry on whining about US foreign policy if it makes you happy. wanker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkoktraveler Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 When it comes to war, it would be a lot cheaper to sue for peace before the war broke out then to participate in the war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coss Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 Colour me cynical, but if China is putting $$$ into Africa, can they expect it back? What happened to the money that's been pouring into the place to date? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkoktraveler Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 China has money to burn. The USA has no money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobbledonk Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 look at the aussie fuck up at gallipoli Which was caused by Churchills abomination of a plan for the Dardanelles. Like the French, we celebrate our most glorious defeats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LizardKing Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 I'm pissed about it. How we and to an extent the British got slowly roped into this over about the past 100 years is beyond me. I am pissed! I would love an isolationist America. But what would that look like? How would that effect the rest of you? Discuss. (Try to be civil.) The issue is our defending corporate interests, not "democracy" or "freedom." That's the source of most of our military actions. And yet, most recent data show that the companies we spend the most money on doing that fail to pay any income tax via "creative accounting." That makes it doubly evil IMHO. Any comment would be superfluous. Ike told us so in 1961. We just failed to listen. Now not just America, but the whole world, is paying the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkoktraveler Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 This happened because most USA citizens think we have a democracy but they have never realized the way our government works is not a democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lazyphil Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 i challenge you to post one positive, uplifting, happy, cheerful post !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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