Flashermac Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 << "2nd hand mai dee, bad luck". >> If they hand you that line, simply ask them if they are a virgin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo_bill Posted January 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 I also question as to why the lass would need an apartment, room, or dorm room if you would buy her a motocyke and she lives only 2-4 kilos away from the school? Seems superfluous to the situation. One or the other, not both. Just my thoughts. Cent Mr. Cent , may I respectfully explain that mademoiselle does not live 4 km away from any school but from the bus station , requiring another 60 minutes by public transportation to get to that school . I have duely noted Khun Flashermacs estimation of dormitory costs and will consider this aspect . If only I knew a civilised way to travel up to Surin I would love to see you there but maybe I have an idea . BuBi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobbledonk Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 And, may I say, I think these Thai lasses who always want something 'brand new' rather than second hand can kiss my white half-Irish behind. It's all about face really. Their face. Well, if you, the farang white knight, are paying for it, it is all up to you. Don't like it, honey, see the previous stuff about my behind... and you can walk baby. It also gets tiring and aggravating listening to these women rant about what 'they' want and need. "2nd hand mai dee, bad luck". Horseshit, honey. Take it, or leave it. There's the offer. Don't like it? Walk. They can be so unreasonable on the subject. Burns my ass at times to see and hear their silly crap. Some/many Thai women seem to think every time a farang takes a shit, Euros and dollar bills magically come out your ass. They seem to believe the money fairy gave you your dollars and you never had to work for it and slave for it. Incentive plan! Show me my money is being well spent, appreciated, and not wasted for just some Thai face bullshit to impress friends, family and neighbors... who couldn't really give a damn about you and yours. More than 2 years now with the farang/Thai restaurant open here in Surin, and I see guys being taken for a ride and made a fool all the time. And they, the women, all (well, not all, but many) want him to build her a new house (on her land and in her name), RENT don't build or buy. It gives you many options in case things go tits up (government, relationship, finances, exchange rate, health, whatever, and a good large house will cost you 6 to 10 K baht a month- inexpensive and comfortable to just RENT). Easy to walk away if need be and the loss in baht is minimal. ALL (most) Thai pooying want a brand new truck or car, motocyke, etc, etc, etc, etc. And they'll nag, plan, whine, cry, claim you don't love them, and on and on until they get what they want, not what the boyfriend or hubbie wants, or can actually afford to do. Turns my stomach at times it is so blatant and obvious the guy is being played. I've seen many farang guys go the full Monty, buy everything her sweet ass desires, and then lose it all in an instant. And many guys, besotted and silly buggers, can't afford to lose it all, or even part of it. They are on fixed retirement incomes. Be smart guys. Stand your ground. Jeezus I could tell you some stories of what I have seen and heard these past 2 and a half years. I've heard and seen it all. Amazing Thailand. Amazing farang. JMHO Cent p.s. Not aimed at you, Bubi. Just a general 'all purpose' rant on what I see here all the time. Cent, A couple of years ago, I might have objected to some of your post, but I agree with you 100%, and I dont think its restricted to Thailand. Kids in Oz have a phenomenal sense of entitlement, and many are simply spoilt rotten - rotten kids become rotten adults, IMO. I dont know what goes on in Surin, but I do remember stupidly buying a 15K camera for a girl who basically used me, simple as that. I dropped my guard in the presence of a 'good' Thai girl - I have since come to see that adjective in a very different light. Gobble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Central Scrutinizer Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 Cent, A couple of years ago, I might have objected to some of your post, but I agree with you 100%, and I dont think its restricted to Thailand. Kids in Oz have a phenomenal sense of entitlement, and many are simply spoilt rotten - rotten kids become rotten adults, IMO. I dont know what goes on in Surin, but I do remember stupidly buying a 15K camera for a girl who basically used me, simple as that. I dropped my guard in the presence of a 'good' Thai girl - I have since come to see that adjective in a very different light. Gobble Gobble, You got off lightly, and learned your lesson. I'm talking about (seen it quite a few times now-enough times to make me wonder about these men, and the women involved ) guys getting banged up for hundreds of thousands, and even millions of baht. I know, and have met, many men and heard their tales of woe here, which, with a bit of common sense, some due diligence, some thinking with the big head instead of the little one, and eyes wide open, could have been avoided, or at least the financial and heart woes could have been greatly lessened. The thing is they almost always blame the ladies, never themselves, for their woes. They just do not have the sense to protect themselves and their assets. Gullibility? Laziness? Abject stupidity? Cunt struck? Immature? Blinded by love/lust? Whatever it is, it seems to be rampant, and many end up on their ass, broke and heart-broken, crying in their beer and wanting a shoulder to cry on and an ear to sympathize with their plight. I do sympathize, somewhat, to a point, but most bring it on themselves, they at least do have part of the blame for their plight. In the past 6 months I know of at least 10 men who have lost everything they put into the marriage/relationship, and know at least 10 more who could/may end up the same. 2 million baht (or much more) house? Gone. 1 million baht truck? Gone. Bank account in the LOS? Gone. Motocyke? Gone. Kids? Gone. Wife? Gone, thankfully actually. Most of these guys spent and spent to make the lass happy (and her family happy), to keep the peace, or get and keep the piece, and have nothing left except a small pension, which they can survive on here, but at a much lesser quality of life then they had planned on and expected to live. It's mind boggling really what these gents get themselves into. The lucky ones are younger and still have a job and income. The sad ones are the older guys with not much remaining in assets, no job or even the possibility of a job, and a small monthly pension. These guys are truly fucked. One guy I know is 85 years old, and has lost it all, except his meager monthly pension check. It's sad to see most times. And I will say that I do know many guys, friends of mine and acquaintances, who have great Thai wives here, good, reliable and decent, salt of the earth women, who are happy in good relationships, have their act together and do protect/have protected themselves in case, god forbid, the shit hits the fan, for whatever reasons. And their wives are frugal and intelligent about money, hard working lasses, whose family and extended family requests for money they refuse, defer, or lessen, and they do seem to love their farang hubby and kid/s if they have them. There are plenty of good stories and relationships out there. You just don't hear as much about those stories and relationships. Many of the worst cases do seem to bring it on themselves. Drinking to excess, whoring around without being discrete at all, abusing their wife when drunk, verbally, and even physically, spending more than they can afford as though the money will never run out ... and they have no job and a fixed amount to live on for the rest of their life, buying/building homes without any protection if the wife gets pissed off and tosses them out when she tires of their drunken abuse and blatant fucking around with other women, buying expensive vehicles, in their wife's name of course because they are too lazy or uneducated to figure out how to put the vehicle in their name (easy enough to do if they pay cash and have a proper visa). Get a 30 year lease on the land, don't build in the wife or girlfriend's village. (Living in your Thai village mansion is next to impossible once the relationship goes sour. Think about it. Plus it's best to have some space from the in-laws and outlaws of her family and extended family, especially the mooches.) [What they should do actually is buy the vehicle on time payments if they don't have the cash to buy outright in their name, in the wife or girlfriend's name, the longer the loan and smaller the monthly payments, the better. Then at least if the wife gets tired of their philandering and drunken ways (or she's just ends up being an evil gold digger, or the relationship just does not work out) and chucks them out on their ass they can walk away and not pay any more payments. Same for the house. Rent it, don't build it or buy it, especially if your funds are limited and need to be saved for the future in your retirement. Then if need be you can walk away, and still have your millions of baht in YOUR bank account overseas, where it is better protected and less easily accessible to a pissed off wife or girlfriend. It is so much easier for a guy to do here than back in the west... to protect your assets and ass if problems arise, whether of your own making or hers, or just general bad luck, economy and such possible eventualities.] So many guys here I have seen, especially older guys, have left it all behind and placed all their eggs in the LOS basket, in the relationship with their dream Thai lady, and think they have it made in the shade. Without a thought for contingencies of the negative sort that may arise in the future, they think it will all be roses, champagne, love and bliss. A tropical paradise without a care. And, they just do not plan for any problems that might arise, they have no real budget that includes these hiccups and disasters. The blinders and rose colored glasses are on, firmly in place. And many shoot themselves in the foot right from the start, with their choices, their lack of forethought, their inability to use any common sense at all. It truly is amazing at times what these guys get themselves into. And the very worst of them seem to actually hate Thais and Thailand, and blame all their problems on the Thais and the country, and will shoulder no blame in their own fate, brought on mainly by their own actions, or inaction. JMHO and thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Central Scrutinizer Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 Cent, A couple of years ago, I might have objected to some of your post, but I agree with you 100%, and I dont think its restricted to Thailand. Kids in Oz have a phenomenal sense of entitlement, and many are simply spoilt rotten - rotten kids become rotten adults, IMO. I dont know what goes on in Surin, but I do remember stupidly buying a 15K camera for a girl who basically used me, simple as that. I dropped my guard in the presence of a 'good' Thai girl - I have since come to see that adjective in a very different light. Gobble Gobble, I'd be interested in what parts you would have disagreed with a few years ago. And you are right. It's not just Thais and Thai women, but women from everywhere, and kids who think they are entitled to everything for doing squat. Spoiled like you say, many of them these days (shit, that makes me sound like an old man). And yes, I have seen 'bad' good girls, and 'good' bad girls. I recently was told a few stories about a guy dating supposedly 'good' Thai girls off the net: teachers, nurses etc. Who seemed to think they deserved money and gifts for not doing a damned thing. 'Good' girls can be bitches and money grubbers as well. I've seen and heard of enough to dispel that whole 'good' girl baloney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Central Scrutinizer Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 Mr. Cent , may I respectfully explain that mademoiselle does not live 4 km away from any school but from the bus station , requiring another 60 minutes by public transportation to get to that school . I have duely noted Khun Flashermacs estimation of dormitory costs and will consider this aspect . If only I knew a civilised way to travel up to Surin I would love to see you there but maybe I have an idea . BuBi Bubi, Thanks for the clarification. I thought the school was only a couple kilometers away. Understood now. And do come to Surin one day and let me know when you are coming so we can hook up and have a drink and a chat. Cent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 A few years back the Post reported on a 60-ish Brit who had married his heart throb (= favourite BG), bought a condo and car in her name, and put her name jointly on his bank account. All went well for a couple of years, until he had to pay a visit to the UK. When he returned, he found his "dearest" had sold the condo and car - and cleaned out his bank account. He'd had more than 6 million baht in it, his life savings. The Mrs had left him about 3,000 baht. He went to the police, but they told him they could do nothing. Everything was in her name, so she had broken no laws. The guys was cleaned out with not even enough money for a ticket home. Closer to home, I had a work colleague who "bought" a condo for over 4 million baht, signing the Thai papers and all with his wife - and not bothering to have them translated. His Mrs went back to her family for a while, but he wasn't concerned. Then one day he noticed something in Thai tacked to his door. It was a demand for rent. He ignored it and threw it away. Another notice and the same thing. Finally, he came home from work and found himself locked out. He went to a lawyer, who explained that what he'd signed was a rental contract. His Mrs and her "brother" had buggered off with the 4 million baht and could not be found. The poor sod left Thailand and went to work in the Middle East, since he was skint. When you come to LOS, don't forget to bring your brain with you! Would you sign such papers at home? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huumlaar Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 To no one in particular. Don't buy a second hand computer. You don't know what's happened to it and the problems it will cause. The cost between a great netbook and a crap second hand computer is 5000 baht. Buy a great netbook and it'll work well and faultlessly as long as she doesn't download too much porn and viruses. The second hand computer could well spend half it's life being repaired continually. Second hand motorbike on the other hand is a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexi Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 A few years back the Post reported on a 60-ish Brit who had married his heart throb (= favourite BG), bought a condo and car in her name, and put her name jointly on his bank account. All went well for a couple of years, until he had to pay a visit to the UK. When he returned, he found his "dearest" had sold the condo and car - and cleaned out his bank account. He'd had more than 6 million baht in it, his life savings. The Mrs had left him about 3,000 baht. He went to the police, but they told him they could do nothing. Everything was in her name, so she had broken no laws. The guys was cleaned out with not even enough money for a ticket home. Closer to home, I had a work colleague who "bought" a condo for over 4 million baht, signing the Thai papers and all with his wife - and not bothering to have them translated. His Mrs went back to her family for a while, but he wasn't concerned. Then one day he noticed something in Thai tacked to his door. It was a demand for rent. He ignored it and threw it away. Another notice and the same thing. Finally, he came home from work and found himself locked out. He went to a lawyer, who explained that what he'd signed was a rental contract. His Mrs and her "brother" had buggered off with the 4 million baht and could not be found. The poor sod left Thailand and went to work in the Middle East, since he was skint. When you come to LOS, don't forget to bring your brain with you! Would you sign such papers at home? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexi Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 In theory assets aquired by the wife after marriage would be split 50/50 with the husband after divorce.Not sure how easy it would be to get cash back later though.....probably as easy as getting butter out of a dogs throat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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