People's Uprising About To Reach 'critical Mass'

[Flashermac]

Not only the international media but the rest of the world except Waerth , Flashermac, Suthep , Khun Thanong and the Bangkok working class .

 

 

I suppose the Bangkok Post, The Nation and most of the Thai language press haven't a clue about what is happening here either. I get my information from Thais I talk to ... in their own language. That must be a serious disadvantage that the international media lacks.

[buffalo_bill]

Clue about what ?

 

I repeat my point , maybe for the third time : I guess that the Shinawatra gang is exploiting the country to their heart's content . Everybody says so , so it might be like that . I don't know what makes them dramatically different from the previous governments but so what .

 

I am further not interested in what mood the protesters are , if they are good heart or crooks , if they are right not not . I am EXCLUSIVELY saying that any political change in a democracy must be following the rules as they are . Which to my opinion is the reason that the current uproar , as justified as it might be , will ruin all that is possibly left of a democratic common sense in the Kingdom .

 

If you allow the Suthep - troops to blackmail the elected government you should realise that this will be estabished as an acceptable way to oust the next one providing you find enough combatantes , enough money to finance them and a really good idea that makes Mr. XYZ the next hero . Increasing prices for rice might be good seller for the next fully justified revolution of all good people .

 

Mr belgianboy , accusing me of having no clue at all is a statement somewhere between arrogance and stupidity as I did even never claim to have a clue ; you should possibly work on your ability to abstract the necessity for lawful proceedings within a society from your personal preferences . In the riverlodge, on a sidenote , it is always interesting to meet and talk occasionally to local people whom you might have seen on TV from time to time . You might be particularly delighted to hear that for example Khun Thaksin as such is a very nice and cheerful person as I got to know him . You may now say that he is evil , up to you . Everybody knows his history .

 

Mr Waerth , would you kindly give up adressing me in any way . You have fallen as deep as accusing me here in public to not having paid you at an earlier occasion ; anybody here on this fine board knowing both of us should realise what a fantastic phantasy this can only be .

 

I hereby declare again , just to be on the safe side :

 

I know that the Shinawatra family fills their pockets by ruling the country

 

I know that Madame Yingluck cries too often in public

 

I know that Suthep is good heart and works exclusively for the benefit of the country

 

I know that all activities to ruin the country and the city of Khrungthep are fully justified because urgently needed

 

 

 

To work on my deficits in understanding the good spirit of Khun Suthep ruining the country I shall visit the Kingdom again on Feb the 4th , I hope this crap is over by then .

[Flashermac]

To work on my deficits in understanding the good spirit of Khun Suthep ruining the country I shall visit the Kingdom again on Feb the 4th , I hope this crap is over by then .

 

 

I sincerely hope so too, for all of our sakes. The longer this goes only, the greater the likelihood for violence. I still remember the stench of burning tyres from 2010. I'd visited the red shirt camp, but my red shirt Mrs told me to stay home the day before the military forcibly broke up the protest camp. She had been warned by the leaders. Pity they didn't warn the ordinary proles who got shot.

 

p.s. Even Abhisit says Thaksin is quite pleasant in person. So, they say, was Richard Nixon. My only complaint is that the foreign press, with a few exceptions, is not accurately reporting who the protesters are.

[Flashermac]

The most difficult election in Thailand's history?

 

by Suthichai Yoon

 

 

My friends are betting on whether the general election scheduled for February 2 will actually take place. As of yesterday the odds stood at 50:50.

 

That speaks volumes about the state of political affairs in this country. Nobody is quite sure about anything anymore. Unlike previous polls, many candidates who have successfully registered for the election have yet to put up their campaign posters in the provinces. One of them told me: "No candidate wants to waste money mounting posters or distributing leaflets because they aren't sure whether the ballot-casting will happen or not."

 

Candidacy registration has been far from smooth, especially in at least eight provinces in the South where protesters have blocked the process. Election Commission officials in some of those troubled constituencies have quit en masse, citing their inability to perform the task up to normal standards.

 

Somchai Srisuthiyakorn, one of the five national Election Commissioners, has publicly stated that this is the "most difficult" election ever held in the political history of the country. He and EC chairman Supachai Somcharoen have urged the government to consider postponing the polling in the face of possible violence and unrest if the caretaker administration insists in going ahead with the snap election.

 

Premier Yingluck Shinawatra has so far refused to yield to the two main demands of the anti-government People's Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC) led by Suthep Thaugsuban: That she quit and that the upcoming election be postponed. She has also said she is open to negotiations.

 

The EC's Somchai has gone out of his way to try to strike a deal between the two opposing groups, but so far to no avail. Both sides have refused to meet face to face, although an EC "broker" has met separately with the rivals.

 

EC chairman Supachai has made no secret of his concern at the government's insistence on its stand. He said violence might break out and the caretaker government would be conducting its business in a restless manner.

 

Also, there is a high risk that the election will not produce the minimum requirement of 95 per cent of the total number of MPs nationwide. In that case, the whole process could be declared null and void. Supachai estimated that up to 26 constituencies might not be able to complete registration.

 

Meanwhile, the government has claimed that the election date has been stipulated by Royal Decree as February 2, so can't be changed. But the EC, which is constitutionally tasked with the job of organising the election, has taken a different stand: Yes, the ballot-casting can be legally moved to a later date, and the government has been informed of the EC's position on this issue.

 

Pheu Thai Party leader Charupong Ruangsuwan has gone one step further by publicly suggesting that the EC might have conspired with the Democrat Party, which has boycotted the election, and the PDRC to sabotage the election.

 

That obviously has pitted the country's election organiser against the ruling party and the caretaker government - a new stand-off that adds further confusion to the already chaotic situation.

 

The military's top brass have tried desperately to take a "neutral position" in the political showdown, although it is obvious that if given a choice they too would prefer the election to be postponed. The possibility of a new round of clashes between pro- and anti-government protesters has caused consternation among military leaders.

 

Whether it was a slip of the tongue or not, Army chief General Prayuth Chan-ocha has added fuel to the fire by refusing to rule out the possibility of a coup if things get out of hand.

 

It wasn't exactly a threat from the armed forces, whose leaders have insisted on not being dragged into the political stand-off. Prayuth had on previous occasions firmly denied that the Army would consider another coup, because it would not be acceptable to most Thais.

 

But when a reporter asked him during a routine "ping-pong banter" whether he was ruling out the possibility of a coup, the army commander-in-chief responded: "I am not ruling anything in or ruling anything out."

 

That alone was enough to set the political scene astir, with red-shirt leader Thida Tavornseth declaring that she was issuing an alert to all red shirts to be ready to come out on the streets to protest against any attempted coup.

 

Despite the posturing from all sides, it would be stating the obvious to say that the election won't be a smooth one.

 

All detectable signs point to an inevitable postponement of the election. For that to happen, the caretaker government and the PDRC leadership and other related parties will have to come to a compromise on how to proceed with the "reform process".

 

Without the latter, the former will remain in limbo.

 

 

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/opinion/The-most-difficult-election-in-Thailands-history-30223308.html

[BelgianBoy]

Mr belgianboy , accusing me of having no clue at all is a statement somewhere between arrogance and stupidity as I did even never claim to have a clue ; you should possibly work on your ability to abstract the necessity for lawful proceedings within a society from your personal preferences . In the riverlodge, on a sidenote , it is always interesting to meet and talk occasionally to local people whom you might have seen on TV from time to time . You might be particularly delighted to hear that for example Khun Thaksin as such is a very nice and cheerful person as I got to know him . You may now say that he is evil , up to you . Everybody knows his history .

and yet again you impose your western definitions of democracy & elections upon Thailand where even the elected / buying votes governement does not follow the democracy rules.....

 

I long ago learned that applying our values to Thailand does not work, then again I only come here 33 years, and I have since now 12 years an extended in-laws (English speaking) to talk to.

 

And no, I never claimed to know it all, certainly in this debate, but alas, you are hitting the ball quite wrong on this one, and I state this without insults......

 

The day Frau Merkel will start acting like a Thaksin or a Morsi or an Erdogan, I am sure people will take to the streets.

Same same and no differnce this time.

 

with respect.

 

BB

[Flashermac]

EC decides not to extend candidacy registration period for southern provinces

 

 

The Election Commission announced Friday that it will not extend the candidacy registration period for southern provinces where the registrations were blocked by protesters.

 

Registrations of candidates in 28 constituencies in eight provinces were blocked by supporters of the People's Democratic Reform Committee.

 

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/Urgent-EC-decides-not-to-extend-candidacy-registra-30223425.html

[Flashermac]

Thai protesters say no plan to shut airports

 

 

Thailand's anti-government protest movement reassured tourists Friday that it would not target the kingdom's airports or public transportation during a planned "shutdown" of Bangkok later this month.

 

The demonstrators, who are seeking to oust Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra and curb her billionaire family’s political dominance, say they will occupy Bangkok from January 13.

 

"Operation Occupy Bangkok does NOT involve airport closures or the disruption of any mass transport services. Public buses, trains, BTS sky-trains, MRT underground trains, and public boats will operate normally," the protest movement said on its English-language Facebook page.

 

The demonstrators have vowed to set up protest stages around the capital, prevent government officials from going to work and to cut off power and water to government offices as well as to the residences of the prime minister and her cabinet.

 

 

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/Thai-protesters-say-no-plan-to-shut-airports-30223429.html

[pasathai1]

time to stock up on food and water and buy a small gas fueled stove.

[waerth]

time to stock up on food and water and buy a small gas fueled stove.

 

Well my fridge is full. So lets hope the power stays on

[WorldFun]

guys the topic here was about 'critical mass' yet no one even came closed to discuss any numbers in their boring repetitive in fight of oh no thailand must continue 'western pseudo democrayz' cuz obama says so vs. the thaksin is the most evil since ww1/ww2/serbia/iraq/eqypt whatever.

 

its an open secret western media and any media are NOT even closely able to zoom in on any local conflict as it develops day by day here. only they take a small 'update clip' and recite the same old same old story yellow vs. red taksin versus dems etc while the truth is here we have something totally new and different!

 

NEVER in the history of THAILAND have there been an uprising of MILLIONS of people. Imagine say 10% of the population joining on the streets for a day or more?

6 millions were estimated for the last one so surely 10M must be doable on 13jan

of course if someone wanna downplay the numbers to like 10,000 or such which is typical for a regular red protest well be my guest & then think for a moment why no reds even psycko jatuporn dare to fight those silly bkk working class people with only whistles and bare hands?

 

Now if a government is deemed obsolete already by the highest court how the fuck is that any kind of democrazy to continue along that path?

Add to that the rate bankrupcy is nearing under yingluck and the more and more desperate corruption projects they are trying to vote through parliament typically during holidays & 3am night time

 

Yeah right yingfuck wouldnt even last 1 day under the sun in Berlin, Rome nor Paris or even London (as PM)!

 

Sure I dont want the mess of politics gone wrong in LOS as I'm likely to get stuck in it here on the ground, but if it's the only sane of the options standing before us so sure as a thinking human being with the facts in front of me this is what I have to help fight for if need be!

Obviously having actually been at both jatuporn & suthep mobs (and clearly guys suthep cooks much more delicious pad thai than long tailed red shirt leaders) these months doesnt work against me in getting the full true picture of things as they stand.

 

I more than anyone know how ill informed one can get by constantly updating bangkok post browser in farangland and still no update lol!

 

So peace and lets hope that as few casualties as påossible will be needed to get thailand onto a new and improved version of democrazy.gov.th Version 2557.1