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It's worth noting that NZ will be moving from a lvl 4 lockdown to a lvl 3 version, Monday at 23:59

Lvl 3 will be like lvl 4, but with more movement, for solo activities. Still no gatherings, but things like Kayak fishing , swimming etc, if alone or with your "bubble",

are allowed, businesses can re-open f they have contactless operations, i.e. staff can 2 metre, from customers, and if customers are all 2 metred.

There y'go a new phenomenon, 2 metre-ing, or 'mericanized,  2 metering

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22 hours ago, cavanami said:

She was arrested without a warrant and held in jail for 5 days without the opportunity for bail as a fugitive from justice. Her career was destroyed.


She was arrested on a warrant from Nevada!  That means she was arrested pursuant to the warrant issued  in Nevada.

In a stunning twist, Mikovits was arrested on Friday, and spent five days in a California jail cell, held without bond. She was released Tuesday after an arraignment hearing, according to court records. An arrest warrant issued by University of Nevada at Reno police listed two felony charges: possession of stolen property and unlawful taking of computer data, equipment, supplies or other computer-related property.


I am still waiting for you to show factual errors in the Snopes article on Mikovits.

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China envoy threatens Australia boycott over virus inquest demand

SYDNEY: China's ambassador in Australia has warned that demands for a probe into the spread of the coronavirus could lead to a consumer boycott of Aussie wine or trips Down Under.

Australia has joined the United States in calling for a thorough investigation of how the virus transformed from a localised epidemic in central China into a pandemic that has killed more than 200,000 people, forced billions into isolation and torpedoed the global economy.

In a thinly veiled threat, ambassador Cheng Jingye warned the push for an independent inquest into the origins of the outbreak was "dangerous".  :angryfire::nono:

"The Chinese public is frustrated, dismayed and disappointed with what Australia is doing now," he claimed in an interview with the Australian Financial Review published on Sunday.

"If the mood is going from bad to worse, people would think 'why should we go to such a country that is not so friendly to China?' The tourists may have second thoughts," he added.

"It is up to the people to decide. Maybe the ordinary people will say 'Why should we drink Australian wine? Eat Australian beef?'"

Cheng also threatened the flow of Chinese students to Australian universities, a key source of revenue that is already under threat from pandemic travel restrictions.

"The parents of the students would also think whether this place which they found is not so friendly, even hostile, whether this is the best place to send their kids here," he said.

The comments mark a significant escalation in tensions between Beijing and Canberra, whose relations are already strained.

They also reflect the willingness of a new generation of Chinese diplomats to aggressively and publicly push Communist Party interests, using Chinese economic might as leverage if necessary.

Experts have said a full investigation into the coronavirus outbreak could prompt scrutiny of China's rulers and their response to the crisis, and open the door for the type of criticism of the Party that is rarely tolerated.

Cheng also accused Australia of echoing talking points from the United States.

"Some guys are attempting to blame China for their problems and deflect the attention," he said.

"It's a kind of pandering to the assertions that are made by some forces in Washington."


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A forecast by the Data Driven Innovation Laboratory of Singapore carries good news  Forecast for LOS is that 97% of COVID is over and 100% done by early June.


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That's very interesting - Table 1. at the link makes a compelling look.

I wonder how they can point to a 0% outcome. All the serious thinking I've been able to hunt out, from the wilderness of mis-information out there, has the virus remaining with us for quite a long time ::

  • at a potentially low level
  • after having killed the vulnerable infected
  • after infecting others who recover
  • after not infecting some due to naturally good immune systems
  • after missing a swathe of folk who were kept from contact, by the lockdown and other measures

On balance, my view is that extinction is unlikely, but desirable (for the virus)


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I was too young to see the NZ Polio epidemic, but my Parents weren't too young to have seen some of the victims, and I remember some older folk from my childhood who were crippled due to it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polio

Whilst to all intents and purposes Polio has nearly gone from the 1st world, I think it's worth remembering it is not gone completely from the 3rd world and could provide an analogue for this Covid virus and the likelihood of it's demise.


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11 hours ago, zzzz said:

A forecast by the Data Driven Innovation Laboratory of Singapore carries good news  Forecast for LOS is that 97% of COVID is over and 100% done by early June.


This depends on Thailand's CV-19 testing to be adequate. Also what do you think will happen when Thailand opens the border to Malaysia, Cambodia, Laos, Burma, and China?

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