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OK, lets for a moment consider the countries which would be central to conflict and how many are run by dictators. So is it fair to say there is a common denominator? What I find interesting is the possibility that if Trump is re-elected, where would the USA stand considering his comments about NATO. Being it's strongest member at the moment, Trump considers it obsolete and the EU a pack of freeloaders. I believe he would support Putin and withdraw support for Ukraine and possibly turn a blind eye to Israel letting it do whatever it wants.

Bottom line is Trump will do whatever best suits his own interests. He really doesn't care about anyone else and based on his election campaign most other countries.

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2 minutes ago, bust said:

OK, lets for a moment consider the countries which would be central to conflict and how many are run by dictators. So is it fair to say there is a common denominator? What I find interesting is the possibility that if Trump is re-elected, where would the USA stand considering his comments about NATO. Being it's strongest member at the moment, Trump considers it obsolete and the EU a pack of freeloaders. I believe he would support Putin and withdraw support for Ukraine and possibly turn a blind eye to Israel letting it do whatever it wants.

Bottom line is Trump will do whatever best suits his own interests. He really doesn't care about anyone else and based on his election campaign most other countries.

First off, posted this under Thai News by mistake, moderator please move… Second, I sadly fear trump may win and yes, do as you say. Maybe U.S. backs off Ukraine, Putin helps end the bullshit in Middle East? Too much to ask for? Iran supposedly does not want a war or so the experts feel…yet I somehow doubt that. Why else would they be doing all they are and have been doing?

     As for NATO…yes, Europe has basically had it good because the USA has largely footed the Bill and has been protected by US troops and British troops…basically our tax money allows  these Euro people to tell us how much they hate us and want us to leave, until they need us…

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One other point worth mentioning, If you feel the need to have an Iron Dome defense system and are currently engaged in battles on seven different fronts, it probably says more about you.

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1 hour ago, Old Hippie said:

allows  these Euro people to tell us how much they hate us and want us to leave, until they need us

NATO Article 5 has only ever been invoked once at the bequest of the USA post 9/11, so who needed who the most?

As for NATO funding, don’t confuse it with total military expenditure. Direct NATO funding the US spends the same as Germany and 1.5 times both UK and France, now considering that the US is 4 times the population of Germany than it is only paying 25% per capita of German payments and 30% of UK and France per capita payments. I get sick of Americans claiming they support NATO when they don’t and are the only ones to have asked for help 

It appears that even OH is not immune to Trumps lies

NATO Payments

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So Trump was the first American president to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel even moved the US Embassy there. He also negotiated the handover of Afghanistan to the Taliban. The middle east has since gone to shit. And now it's been revealed he was a fan of Hitler 🤔

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55 minutes ago, Mekong said:

NATO Article 5 has only ever been invoked once at the bequest of the USA post 9/11, so who needed who the most?

As for NATO funding, don’t confuse it with total military expenditure. Direct NATO funding the US spends the same as Germany and 1.5 times both UK and France, now considering that the US is 4 times the population of Germany than it is only paying 25% per capita of German payments and 30% of UK and France per capita payments. I get sick of Americans claiming they support NATO when they don’t and are the only ones to have asked for help 

It appears that even OH is not immune to Trumps lies

NATO Payments

No, I am the victim of U.S., propaganda…next you will tell me John Wayne was not a great Green Beret Military leader who won the war..? 

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38 minutes ago, bust said:

So Trump was the first American president to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel even moved the US Embassy there. He also negotiated the handover of Afghanistan to the Taliban. The middle east has since gone to shit. And now it's been revealed he was a fan of Hitler 🤔

More lies! It was all Biden’s fault! Don’t try to confuse this with easily proven facts! 

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1 hour ago, Mekong said:

NATO Article 5 has only ever been invoked once at the bequest of the USA post 9/11, so who needed who the most?

As for NATO funding, don’t confuse it with total military expenditure. Direct NATO funding the US spends the same as Germany and 1.5 times both UK and France, now considering that the US is 4 times the population of Germany than it is only paying 25% per capita of German payments and 30% of UK and France per capita payments. I get sick of Americans claiming they support NATO when they don’t and are the only ones to have asked for help 

It appears that even OH is not immune to Trumps lies

NATO Payments

 

I am also going by what a certain down trodden German journalist has repeatedly said “…everything is the fault of NATO which is driven by and funded by the USA to get Europe and NATO to do it’s bidding…” He wants the USA and NATO out of Germany…but then changed his tune when this thing with Ukraine popped up…he still hates us and NATO but he wants us there to defend Germany so he won’t have to…I used to like the guy and respected him a bit, but he went off the rails…too much time on his hands…

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