84 Dead in Pattani: "This is typical"

[Guest]

well, as far as i can remember i read that it was the six guys who were held since months. but i might be wrong there. which does not really change the fact that the deaths of the 78 are an outrage, and that we observe a spiral of violence in the south which can easily lead into a fullblown civil war. and that the present government appears to incapable of handling.

[Guest lazyphil]

A Guns N Roses ditty

 

"What we've got here is failure to communicate.

Some men you just can't reach...

So, you get what we had here last week,

which is the way he wants it!

Well, he gets it!

N' I don't like it any more than you men." *

 

 

Look at your young men fighting

Look at your women crying

Look at your young men dying

The way they've always done before

 

 

Look at the hate we're breeding

Look at the fear we're feeding

Look at the lives we're leading

The way we've always done before

 

 

My hands are tied

The billions shift from side to side

And the wars go on with brainwashed pride

For the love of God and our human rights

And all these things are swept aside

By bloody hands time can't deny

And are washed away by your genocide

And history hides the lies of our civil wars

 

 

D'you wear a black armband

When they shot the man

Who said "Peace could last forever"

And in my first memories

They shot Kennedy

I went numb when I learned to see

So I never fell for Vietnam

We got the wall of D.C. to remind us all

That you can't trust freedom

When it's not in your hands

When everybody's fightin'

For their promised land

 

 

And

I don't need your civil war

It feeds the rich while it buries the poor

Your power hungry sellin' soldiers

In a human grocery store

Ain't that fresh

I don't need your civil war

 

 

Look at the shoes your filling

Look at the blood we're spilling

Look at the world we're killing

The way we've always done before

Look in the doubt we've wallowed

Look at the leaders we've followed

Look at the lies we've swallowed

And I don't want to hear no more

 

 

My hands are tied

For all I've seen has changed my mind

But still the wars go on as the years go by

With no love of God or human rights

'Cause all these dreams are swept aside

By bloody hands of the hypnotized

Who carry the cross of homicide

And history bears the scars of our civil wars

 

 

"We practice selective annihilation of mayors

And government officials

For example to create a vacuum

Then we fill that vacuum

As popular war advances

Peace is closer" **

 

 

I don't need your civil war

It feeds the rich while it buries the poor

Your power hungry sellin' soldiers

In a human grocery store

Ain't that fresh

And I don't need your civil war

I don't need your civil war

I don't need your civil war

Your power hungry sellin' soldiers

In a human grocery store

Ain't that fresh

I don't need your civil war

I don't need one more war

 

 

I don't need one more war

Whaz so civil 'bout war anyway

[bibblies]

Go on, fly and phil! Give the karaoke Hitler hell! One from the western front and another attacking from the east...::

[check_bin_krap]

Well said Phil.

[thai3]

 

 

You seem rather obsessed with Herr Hitler, who I believe suffered from the effects of stimulant drugs and methadone which caused who knows how many crazy decisions and deaths. It's a question of how much due process a nation can afford when being confronted with murdering terrorist groups and their supporters. When the chips are down I don't think there is a nation on earth which would be prepared to be torn apart by insisting on following their laws and constitution to the letter.

The romans did things by due process, they really knew how to put down a rebellion, nail the buggers up-peter

[Guest lazyphil]

:)

[bibblies]

Daily Mail reader.

[thai3]

 

 

You sound like a kid in a schoolyard egging on the bigger boys to do what you wish you could. The Daily mail is a fine publication, I expect you read the daily sport?, don't tell me it's the Gaurdian.-peter

[spirit_of_town_hall]

Actually Hitler was addicted to methedrine ( pure speed)...

 

STH

[Guest]

>>>You seem rather obsessed with Herr Hitler, who I believe suffered from the effects of stimulant drugs and methadone which caused who knows how many crazy decisions and deaths.<<<

 

 

his racial delusions started a bit earlier, when he failed his career in arts, and lived in some asylums. there, in vienna, he joined some of the rampant antisemitic pseudo mysic circles, who borrowed some of their mental garbage from completely misunderstood hindu mysticism then in fashion. no parallels intended here...

 

 

 

>>>When the chips are down I don't think there is a nation on earth which would be prepared to be torn apart by insisting on following their laws and constitution to the letter. <<<

 

...and turns into a brutal and barbaric dictatorship. we have seen that a few times in history already. interesting though that you appearantly have not much problems when laws and constitutions are not really "followed to the letter" as long as religions and minorities are concerned *you* deem as barbaric.

excuse me please, but i may be a bit too slow to understand your point, so, can you tell me please what is the difference between the *bad* guys being barbaric, and the *good* guys being barbaric?