rogueyam Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 Bush said the entire Iraqi Press Corp was humiliated by the shoe-throwing incident... Link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogueyam Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 I find this thread so bizarre. RY, why do you defend Bush? He got rid of one man, removing a dictator who admittedly was a vile individual. Iraq then descended into anarchy and chaos, with tens of thousands losing their lives. Throwing shoes is not polite, but it is mild in comparison to the pain and anger caused by Bush's administration to so many there. A little understanding RY . Your earlier post; ""Journalists" are the same everywhere. Without GWB there would be no free press in Iraq and this shoe-throwing retard would be off to the torture chamber (and the women in his family would be off to the rape rooms). You encourage people like this, BT, because you are insane." I'm sure you're right that there wasn't any freedom of the press under Saddam, but a little empathy for the Iraqi's wouldn't go amiss...they've been through a lot. Your post is really quite ridiculous if you are able to see the bigger picture. It's just a shoe. No one died. You pretend to plead for understanding and then post idiocy. GWB, the U.S. military, and the American people did not merely get rid of one vile man. We removed a vile dictatorship, defended Iraq against a heinous insurgency backed by and carried out by evildoers from throughout the Muslim world, and we have helped the Iraqi people start to create a free and democratic country for the first time in their history. We did this at great cost to ourselves. You talk of the cost of these actions to the Iraqis but Saddam was never going to be removed without a terrible cost being paid by the Iraqis. Of course his continued reign would have come at great cost as well. And 99.99% of the torture and murder that has occurred in Iraq since the beginning of OIF has been due to deliberate acts by non-Americans. American forces have stood between Iraqis and their murderers more than any Arab or Muslim army has ever done so for anyone else ever in history. That is the big picture and it is you who cannot see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogueyam Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 Finally' date=' former Air National Guard 1LT Bush has come under hostile fire! [/quote'] Too bad he didn't get hit, he would have gotten a purple heart. No, that's John Kerry you're thinking of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USVirgin Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 I think Austin Powers summed it up best when he said, "Who throws a shoe?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckwoww Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 Bush said the entire Iraqi Press Corp was humiliated by the shoe-throwing incident... Link? http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/politics&id=6555663 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faustian Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 I find this thread so bizarre. RY' date=' why do you defend Bush? He got rid of one man, removing a dictator who admittedly was a vile individual. Iraq then descended into anarchy and chaos, with tens of thousands losing their lives. Throwing shoes is not polite, but it is mild in comparison to the pain and anger caused by Bush's administration to so many there. A little understanding RY . Your earlier post; ""Journalists" are the same everywhere. Without GWB there would be no free press in Iraq and this shoe-throwing retard would be off to the torture chamber (and the women in his family would be off to the rape rooms). You encourage people like this, BT, because you are insane." I'm sure you're right that there wasn't any freedom of the press under Saddam, but a little empathy for the Iraqi's wouldn't go amiss...they've been through a lot. Your post is really quite ridiculous if you are able to see the bigger picture. It's just a shoe. No one died. [/quote'] You pretend to plead for understanding and then post idiocy. GWB, the U.S. military, and the American people did not merely get rid of one vile man. We removed a vile dictatorship, defended Iraq against a heinous insurgency backed by and carried out by evildoers from throughout the Muslim world, and we have helped the Iraqi people start to create a free and democratic country for the first time in their history. We did this at great cost to ourselves. You talk of the cost of these actions to the Iraqis but Saddam was never going to be removed without a terrible cost being paid by the Iraqis. Of course his continued reign would have come at great cost as well. And 99.99% of the torture and murder that has occurred in Iraq since the beginning of OIF has been due to deliberate acts by non-Americans. American forces have stood between Iraqis and their murderers more than any Arab or Muslim army has ever done so for anyone else ever in history. That is the big picture and it is you who cannot see it. My god you are stupid. I'm sure the prisoners at Abu Graib would endorse your figures... Nowhere did I say that I don't understand this. I appreciate all aspects of this horrible war. It appears you don't. Your usual myopic vision of the world renders you incapable of appreciating others points of view. Intelligence is demonstrated by those who can see all points of view. Stupidity, such as yours, only sees one point of view. Nothing is clear cut RY. You seemingly arrive at conclusions, based upon inaccurate information, or cherry picked sources, that agree with your pre-determined opinion. It is apparently Impossible to change your mind or persuade you to consider others points of view. Such closed mindedness is the very definition of stupidity. Furthermore, you fail to demonstrate any evidence of empathy time and time again. Empathy is widely recognised as an aspect of high intelligence. You are curiously devoid of empathy suggesting a deficit in your cognitive functioning. A considerable deficit. All I suggested was that the shoe throwing wasn't that big of a deal...all things considered... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogueyam Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 You post a lot of crap and virtually no argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckwoww Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 A lot of Iraqis probably see the shoe-throwing incident as a big deal. They've been totally humiliated as a nation. They're under occupation. It's a gesture of defiance that made news around the world. Won't help them much though IMO. Most of the American troops aren't going anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rchapstick Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 You post a lot of crap and virtually no argument. LIE! FALSE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkoktraveler Posted December 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 I post a lot of crap and virtually no argument. I agree with you fully, rogie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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