Coss Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 "â€My analogy is that it’s like becoming Bill Gates without liking computers.â€" Whilst I have some respect for what Bill Gates is doing nowadays, it's obvious Bill doesn't like computers, look at Windows! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 CURL: Crowley skews hard for Obama in disastrous debate OPINION: HEMPSTEAD, N.Y. — Another debate, another debacle for America’s media. In the runup to the second presidential debate, CNN’s Candy Crowley declared that she would not just be a “fly on the wall†as she played the tiny role of moderator, that she would step in whenever she chose to say, “Hey, wait a second, what about X, Y, Z?†And boy did she, cutting off Republican Mitt Romney repeatedly and often throwing the floor to President Obama with an open “let me give the president a chance here.†More, she alone decided the topics for the debate, picking questions from the 80 so-called “undecided†voters chosen by the Gallup polling organization. Her selections were tailor-made for Mr. Obama — Mitt Romney’s tax plan, women’s rights and contraception, outsourcing, immigration, the Libya debacle (which gave Mr. Obama to finally say that the buck stops with him, not, as Hillary Clinton said, with her). She even chose this question, directed to both men: “I do attribute much of America’s economic and international problems to the failings and missteps of the Bush administration. Since both of you are Republicans, I fear the return to the policies of those years should you win this election. What is the biggest difference between you and George W. Bush, and how do you differentiate yourself from George W. Bush?†Ms. Crowley, who called Mr. Romney’s selection of Rep. Paul Ryan as running mate a “ticket death wish,†asserted her unilateral power at the outset, telling the audience before the cameras went on that she planned to “give the debate direction and ensure the candidates give answers to the questions.†After both candidates answered Question One, she blurted: “Let me get a more immediate answer†— whatever that means. But when Mr. Romney sought to correct falsehoods told by the president, she cut him off: “We have all these folks here.†In the end, Mr. Obama would get 9 percent more time. At Question Two, Mr. Obama, asked by Mr. Romney how much he had cut federal oil permits, took over the floor — with Ms. Crowley’s silent approval. “Here’s what happened,†he said as he filibustered for a full minute. Mr. Romney sought to get the last word — as the president had the question before — but the moderator shut him down: “It’ doesn’t quite work like that.†When Mr. Romney sought to counter Mr. Obama’s assertion after Question Three, Ms. Crowley again cut him off: “Before we get into a vast array….†she said before asking a completely different question. The next question was pure Obama — workplace inequality (the president mention at every stop his Lily Ledbetter legislation). But the query gave him the platform to demand Americans pay for contraception for all women, saying the governor “feels comfortable having politicians in Washington decide the health care choices that women are making.†For the record, Mr. Obama spoke for two minutes, then Mr. Romney, then Mr. Obama again. Ms. Crowley then rushed into the next question. When the immigration question came up, both candidates gave their answers. Then the moderator once again butted in, ordering Mr. Romney to “speak to the idea of self-deportation.†By then, Mr. Romney had had enough, and talked over her demands. “No, let — let — let me go back and speak to the points the president made and — and — and let’s get them correct.†At the next question, the moderator lost all control. “Candy,†Mr. Obama said. “Hold on.†“Mr. President,†the governor said, “I’m still speaking.†They mixed it up for a bit, then Ms. Crowley said: “Sit down, Mr. Romney.†The most shocking exchange took place on the Benghazi attack that left the U.S. ambassador to Libya and three others dead. Mr. Romney: “You said in the Rose Garden the day after the attack, it was an act of terror? It was not a spontaneous demonstration, is that what you’re saying.†Mr. Obama made no defense. “Please proceed, governor.†“I want to make sure,†Mr. Romney said. “Get the transcript,†the president said. Then Ms. Crowley jumped in to do her own fact-check, on the spot. “It — it — it — he did in fact, sir. … He did call it an act of terror.†The truth is, he didn’t. The day after the attack, he said only this: “No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for.†It took another two weeks before the White House would label the attack an act of terror. The Obama people, of course, loved it — having blamed Mr. Obama’s dismal performance in the first debate on poor moderating. “He’s back,†said Team O spokeswoman Jen Psaki, who lauded Ms. Crowley for her fact checking. But then she caught herself and quickly added: “He was never really gone, but he’s back.†My link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unit731 Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 Obama Won Second Presidential Debate "Oct. 17 (Bloomberg) -- President Barack Obama won last night’s presidential debate with Republican challenger Mitt Romney, according to a CNN/ORC International poll of 457 registered voters who watched the nationally televised event. Forty-six percent of those surveyed said Obama fared better in the debate, compared with 39 percent for Romney, according to results aired on CNN after the event. The poll found 73 percent said Obama’s performance exceeded expectations, compared with 37 percent who said Romney did better than expected." LINK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamui Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 Obama Won Second Presidential Debate "Oct. 17 (Bloomberg) -- President Barack Obama won last night’s presidential debate with Republican challenger Mitt Romney, according to a CNN/ORC International poll of 457 registered voters who watched the nationally televised event. Forty-six percent of those surveyed said Obama fared better in the debate, compared with 39 percent for Romney, according to results aired on CNN after the event. The poll found 73 percent said Obama’s performance exceeded expectations, compared with 37 percent who said Romney did better than expected." LINK In the end, that's what's counts. All the noise in right and left media don't mean much. It's the undecided and unenthusiastic voters... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 Bizarre Coincidence: Democrats Get More Time in All Three Debates If you want more time to get your message out in debates, it’s good to be a Democrat. According to the CNN debate clock, President Obama spoke at greater length than Mitt Romney during both debates, as did Vice President Biden during his debate with Paul Ryan. In the first debate, Obama spoke for 3 minutes, 14 seconds more than Romney — which means he got 8 percent more talking time than Romney. In last night’s debate, Obama spoke for 4 minutes and 18 seconds longer than Romney, giving him 11 percent more talking time. Obama talked for 52 percent of the time when either man had the floor, while Romney talked for 47 percent. During the vice presidential debate, the gap wasn’t as wide: Biden spoke for 1 minute, 22 seconds more than Ryan. Still, that gave Biden 3 percent more speaking time than Ryan. My link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 A Draw, or Better Than a Draw Obama did not forfeit the debate as last time, and took his cue from Joe Biden in interrupting and muttering while Romney spoke, so his energy made it an entertaining night. Nevertheless, the same theme as in Denver emerged — Romney more often providing specific proposals and detailed critiques, and Obama preferring more often emoting and running more on hypotheticals, as if he were not an incumbent with a depressing record that he is obligated to defend. A key moment was Libya, and that is bad for the Obama cause, even if Romney let Obama slightly off the hook. Obama frowned and got defensive and then blew it by disingenuous explanations — claiming that almost immediately after the attack, he had labeled it an act of terrorism, omitting that on numerous occasions in the next two weeks he most certainly did not say that clearly at all, and declared either that it was the fault of a video or that he did not have enough information. Libya and oil-and-gas are losing issues for Obama; both are central to national security and they will be the center of the next debate. Obama’s argument that private drillers produced more oil and gas despite rather than because of his policies is not a winner. I think the debate was a draw, and so Romney’s ascendance may well continue. Obama did better than in Denver and will energize his base by his competitiveness, but not better to the degree that he arrests Romney’s momentum or wins back independents. Next-day reflection, fact-checking, and selecta-quotes, as in the case of the VP debate, may well favor the Republican. Romney did well despite once again being given less talk time, an inept moderator, and a silly town-hall forum. The biggest losers? The pathetic staged town-hall format: The questions are preselected and the questioners not spontaneous and often clumsy. They seemed unenthusiastic and their presence impeded a fuller exchange of views. Ms. Crowley was out of bounds by selectively attempting to offer real-time fact-checking — endorsed by Obama (“Say that a little louder, Candy!â€) — and fact-checking, no less, that was not quite factual. Nemesis struck when, in the middle of her clumsy attempts to offer a lifeline to a stumbling Obama on Libya, she had a deer-in-the-headlights look and an exasperated stutter, almost as if to say, “Why am I giving myself away?†Final verdict: Again, I think polls and post-debate focus and reflection will suggest Romney did better than the immediate consensus of a draw. My link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 Threats to Assassinate Romney Explode After Debate Despite numerous media outlets attempting to downplay the issue, Twitter exploded last night following the debate with new threats from Obama supporters to assassinate Mitt Romney if he defeats Obama in the presidential race. As we reported yesterday, in addition to threats by Obama supporters to riot if Romney wins, innumerable Twitter users are also making direct death threats against Romney. ... Well, they said this was going to be a nasty election ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamui Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 Threats to Assassinate Romney Explode After Debate Despite numerous media outlets attempting to downplay the issue, Twitter exploded last night following the debate with new threats from Obama supporters to assassinate Mitt Romney if he defeats Obama in the presidential race. As we reported yesterday, in addition to threats by Obama supporters to riot if Romney wins, innumerable Twitter users are also making direct death threats against Romney. ... Well, they said this was going to be a nasty election ... Flash, all rightwing chatter becomes really boring. Here is the most important result of the debate: ‘Binders full of women’ meme spreads By: Patrick Gavin October 16, 2012 10:02 PM EDT During Tuesday night’s town hall debate, in response to an answer about gender inequality in the workforce, Mitt Romney referred to having received “binders full of women†from colleagues during his time in the private sector. The line also inspired a Romney’s Binder Twitter account, and a popular Binders Full Of WomenTumblr, with references to Hugh Hefner, “Call Me Maybe,†“Say Anything,†“Dirty Dancing,†Texts from Hillary, Ryan Gosling and, of course, Trapper Keeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkoktraveler Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 Threats to Assassinate Romney Explode After Debate Despite numerous media outlets attempting to downplay the issue, Twitter exploded last night following the debate with new threats from Obama supporters to assassinate Mitt Romney if he defeats Obama in the presidential race. As we reported yesterday, in addition to threats by Obama supporters to riot if Romney wins, innumerable Twitter users are also making direct death threats against Romney. ... Well, they said this was going to be a nasty election ... It could be Republicans want to kill Willard Romney. Willard's stand on abortion, education, immigration, education are now more in lined what Obama believes then what the Republican party believes. Is Willard Romney a closet Democrat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkoktraveler Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 If somebody asked which party believes "Satan and Jesus are brothers" most if not all would say Democrats but this is exactly what Willard Romney believes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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