gobbledonk Posted July 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 Sorry, guys - I know Ted isnt the most popular man in America, but I cant help myself. There is a point in this interview where I think our interviewer feared for his life in the wake of Ted's fury http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_QjEL0uUgo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lazyphil Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 i like this dude!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 I have a friend here who is a retired policeman, USMC as a teenager. He says he told his son, "You don't want to be a cop these days. Criminals have more rights than you do. Shoot an armed gunman and you will probably end up in jail. Find another job." Pretty close to the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamui Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 Here is a comparison of the legal status of ownership of the AR-15 gun in different countries, which the movie shooter used. Only the USA has no legal restrictions: http://en.wikipedia....ilian_ownership By the way the legal status in Germany is very simple: In Germany and Finland, possession of semi-automatic rifles, including the AR-15, is legal, provided that the rifle's owner acquires a permit for owning one. A license is required for each individual firearm and there needs to be a specific reason for ownership such as participation in the shooting sports and hunting. What Wikipedia doesn't say that clearly, is that to own any gun (outside security jobs) you'll need to be a hunter or sports shooter. You need to be a member of hunting or shooter association, you'll need to take courses and take exams, you'll need a gun locker with special safety locks, e.g. Which means for to own a gun you have to invest a lot of time and some money. In the end it means that very few people in Germany have the permission to own the AR-15 or any other gun. Generally, people outside huntings, sports shooting and security (police, private security) don't own guns. Gun permits for self-defence are extremely rare (maybe for diamond traders and such). For example for just being famous or a public person isn't enough to obtain a gun ownership permit. Personally I have never held a gun in my hands in my whole life (except an air gun), nor have I ever seen a privately owned guns except hunting rifles at my grandfathers home 30-40 years ago, nor do I currently know anybody who owns a gun. Guns are just not part of our daily life and no one talks about needing a gun for self defence. In regard to home invasion: Those who fear break-ins just put better locks on their doors and windows... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 As I've said before, an AR-15 is a military weapon that uses military steel-jacket bullets. I don't think one should be available without a special permit, just as it takes a hard-to-get permit to own fully automatic weapons. There are plenty of other firearms more suitable for self-defence. I'd pick an 11mm semi-automatic pistol myself. Frankly, I'd love to have a standard Army issue M14 with a 20-round magazine in the closet, but I doubt if I'd be allowed to have one. I grew up with firearms in the house. Both of my grandfathers owned them, as did my father. None of us ever misused them. My grandfather, dad and I were all veterans too. Maybe that is what is wrong today. Too few people have had any training on how and when to use a firearm. They get their ideas from Hollywood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robaus Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 As far as gun ownership goes...what country(ies) have the most restrictive laws? UK? Germany? Then look at their crime rates...so are guns the problem? Criminals always manage to find weapons (guns). Here's an interesting table from Wikipedia with numbers of firearm related deaths. Australia's figures were taken from 1994 before the Port Arthur massacre and John Howard's strict gun control. I would expect the figure to be less now. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate ..... per 100,000 population. Sorry about formatting. I sorted in Excel. The first figure next to the country is the total. Country Total firearm-related death rate Homicides Suicides Unintentional deaths Year Sources and notes  South Africa 74.57 74.57 NA NA 2000 UNODC 2000[1]  Colombia 51.77 51.77 NA NA 2000 UNODC 2000[1]  El Salvador 50.36 50.36 NA NA 2009 OAS 2011[2]  Jamaica 47.44 47.44 NA NA 2009 OAS 2011[2]  Honduras 46.7 46.7 NA NA 2007 OAS 2011[2]  Guatemala 38.52 38.52 NA NA 2009 OAS 2011[2]  Swaziland 37.16 37.16 NA NA 2004 UNODC 2006[2]  Brazil 14.15 10.58 0.73 0.28 1993 Krug 1998[3]  Panama 12.92 12.92 NA NA 2010 OAS 2011[2]  Estonia 12.74 8.07 3.13 0.93 1994 Krug 1998[3]  Mexico 12.07 9.88 0.91 1.27 1994 Krug 1998[3]  United States 10.27 4.14 5.71 0.23 2004-2006 CDC[4]  Philippines 9.46 9.46 NA NA 2002 UNODC 2002[5]  Argentina 9.19 2.11 3.05 0.32 1994 Krug 1998[3]  Paraguay 7.35 7.35 NA NA 2000 UNODC 2000[1]  Nicaragua 7.14 7.14 NA NA 2007 OAS 2011[2]  Finland 6.86 0.86 5.78 0.12 1994 Krug 1998[3]  Northern Ireland 6.82 5.24 1.34 0.12 1994 Krug 1998[3]  Switzerland 6.4 0.58 5.61 0.13 1994 Krug 1998[3]  France 6.35 0.44 5.14 0.11 1994 Krug 1998[3]  Canada 4.78 0.76 3.72 0.22 1992 Krug 1998[3]  Zimbabwe 4.75 4.75 NA NA 2000 UNODC 2000[1]  Austria 4.56 0.42 4.06 0.05 1994 Krug 1998[3]  Norway 4.39 0.3 3.95 0.12 1993 Krug 1998[3]  Portugal 3.72 1.28 1.28 0.21 1994 Krug 1998[3]  Belgium 3.48 0.6 2.56 0.06 1990 Krug 1998[3]  Costa Rica 3.32 3.32 NA NA 2002 UNODC 2002[5]  Uruguay 3.24 3.24 NA NA 2002 UNODC 2002[5]  Slovenia 3.07 0.35 2.51 0.2 1994 Krug 1998[3]  Israel 3 0.72 1.84 0.13 1993 Krug 1998[3]  Barbados 3 3 NA NA 2000 UNODC 2000[1]  Italy 2.95 1.66 1.11 0.11 1992 Krug 1998[3]  Australia 2.94 0.44 2.35 0.11 1994 Krug 1998[3]  New Zealand 2.66 0.17 2.14 0.09 1993 Krug 1998[3]  Denmark 2.6 0.23 2.25 0.04 1993 Krug 1998[3]  Azerbaijan 2.38 1.47 NA NA 2002 UNODC 2002[5]  Sweden 2.36 0.18 2.09 0.03 1993 Krug 1998[3]  Slovakia 2.17 2.17 NA NA 2000 UNODC 2000[1]  Peru 1.87 1.87 NA NA 2009 OAS 2011[2]  Czech Republic 1.77 1.77 NA NA 2002 UNODC 2002[5]  Germany 1.57 0.22 1.17 0.04 1994 Krug 1998[3]  Greece 1.5 0.59 0.84 0.04 1994 Krug 1998[3]  Republic of Macedonia 1.28 1.28 NA NA 2000 UNODC 2000[1]  Kuwait 1.25 0.36 0.06 0 1995 Krug 1998[3]  Hungary 1.21 0.23 0.88 0.09 1994 Krug 1998[3]  Ireland 1.21 0.03 0.94 0.11 1991 Krug 1998[3]  Latvia 1.2 1.2 NA NA 2002 UNODC 2002[5]  India 0.93 0.93 NA NA 2000 UNODC 2000[1]  Spain 0.9 0.21 0.43 0.25 1993 Krug 1998[3]  Bulgaria 0.77 0.77 NA NA 2000 UNODC 2000[1]  Netherlands 0.7 0.36 0.31 0.01 1994 Krug 1998[3]  Scotland 0.58 0.19 0.33 0.02 1994 Krug 1998[3]  Moldova 0.47 0.47 NA NA 2002 UNODC 2002[5]  England/ Wales 0.46 0.07 0.33 0.01 2002 Krug 1998[3]  Lithuania 0.46 0.46 NA NA 2002 UNODC 2002[5]  Taiwan 0.42 0.13 0.12 0.11 1994 Krug 1998[3]  Belarus 0.38 0.38 NA NA 2002 UNODC 2002[5]  Ukraine 0.35 0.35 NA NA 2000 UNODC 2000[1]  Poland 0.29 0.29 NA NA 2002 UNODC 2002[5]  Singapore 0.24 0.07 0.17 0 1994 Krug 1998[3]  Hong Kong 0.19 0.12 0.07 0 1993 Krug 1998[3]  Mauritius 0.19 0 0.09 0.09 1993 Krug 1998[3]  Qatar 0.18 0.18 NA NA 2000 UNODC 2000[1]  South Korea 0.13 0.04 0.02 0.05 1994 Krug 1998[3]  Japan 0.07 0.02 0.04 0 1994 Krug 1998[3]  Chile 0.06 0.06 NA NA 2002 UNODC 2002[5] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayjann Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 i have a good friend born and bred in South Dakota,USA and all his life has owned guns because they have a hunting culture(deer,ducks etc). he works for the local Police but not a Policeman but allowed to keep weapons. the last time i visited him we went out as he tried to get me to hunt,but not my ideal of fun really. but we did shoot revolvers in his backyard(nearest house was about 2 miles away)and i did'nt have a clue. my friend seems a sensible person and all his weapons are safely locked away in his cellar. but who knows if he was to suddenly have an episode of madness and reak havoc in the local town?. but he is an expert with a bow and arrows as well and has a vast selection of weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkoktraveler Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 I believe Thailand has fairly restrictive gun laws but whenever there is a coup the guns come 'out of the wood work'. Germany's gun laws seem to work but then the people don't seem to have major issues were they think they need a gun. Mexico gun laws probably are as restrictive as Germany but their gun laws don't seem to be working probably because of the 'War on Drugs'. If people know about guns or any prohibitive item(s) they will get the prohibitive item(s) if they think they need them. Drugs are a classical example. As for guns, if guns are outlawed will that prevent criminals from manufacturing their own guns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkoktraveler Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 A few years ago I came close to buying one of the famous silver mines in Arizona. I even got permission to work the mine for awhile. To work the mine you need explosives. To get explosives for the mine is relatively simple. But for the average nut case, they don't even know where to go to buy the explosives let alone know how to use them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkoktraveler Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 Will more restrictive gun laws make law abiding citizens safer? And does anybody think the criminals are going to abide by the new laws being the criminals ignore the present gun laws? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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