Rugby in 2024

[Old Hippie]

Seems like fun…too bad I don’t actually understand the game…

[bust]

Imagine American football without padding and a thousand times less stoppages.

All Blacks rugby matches are worth watching for the haka alone.

 

[Stickman]

19 minutes ago, bust said:

Imagine American football without padding and a thousand times less stoppages.

All Blacks rugby matches are worth watching for the haka alone.

 

I will go against the grain and I say that personally, I question the haka being allowed before all matches. It gives New Zealand an unfair advantage. It's over-done these days and I am one of few Kiwis who agrees with some in the Northern Hemisphere who rightfully ask, why is this pre-game pageantry allowed before every match?

[Coss]

All part of the entertainment

But imagine if the English started to respond with their national dance, and the Irish, and the Scots...

 

English

 

Irish

 

Scots

 

[bust]

11 hours ago, Stickman said:

I will go against the grain and I say that personally, I question the haka being allowed before all matches. It gives New Zealand an unfair advantage. It's over-done these days and I am one of few Kiwis who agrees with some in the Northern Hemisphere who rightfully ask, why is this pre-game pageantry allowed before every match?

I am a fan of the Haka pre game along with the Sipi Tao and the Manu Sivi Tao

I do however agree it's becoming a bit of an any time will do situation which seems a generational change. I see school kids doing at junior presentations but maybe that's their way of embracing their culture.

[Coss]

2 hours ago, bust said:

I see school kids doing at junior presentations but maybe that's their way of embracing their culture.

yep, there's a haka or a haka adjacent, for many occasions, often as a show of " this is me and mine, and we respect you/them/etc".

[Mekong]

14 hours ago, Coss said:

All part of the entertainment

But imagine if the English started to respond with their national dance, and the Irish, and the Scots...

But that is the point, New Zealand are allowed to do the Haka but trams are t allowed to reciprocate.

 Remember the 2019 WC semi final when England lined up in a V Formation to counter the Haka, England were fined, where is the fairness in that?
England Fined

 

[Stickman]

6 hours ago, Mekong said:

But that is the point, New Zealand are allowed to do the Haka but trams are t allowed to reciprocate.

 Remember the 2019 WC semi final when England lined up in a V Formation to counter the Haka, England were fined, where is the fairness in that?
England Fined

 

Most Kiwis are very precious about the haka. I think it's become a total nonsense and am very much an outlier in NZ over this.

[Coss]

6 hours ago, Mekong said:

But that is the point, New Zealand are allowed to do the Haka but trams are t allowed to reciprocate.

 Remember the 2019 WC semi final when England lined up in a V Formation to counter the Haka, England were fined, where is the fairness in that?
England Fined

 

Fairness? England were fined for "World Rugby regulations state opponents must not cross the halfway line while the Maori war dance is being performed and six England players could be seen in breach of the ruling last Saturday. " breaching regulations.

And "Aaron Smith also revealing Farrell was winking at him" so now we know that Owen Farrell likes a bit of stray.

quotes sourced from Mekong's link.

I'm not worried about the Haka one way or another, do it, don't, let the opposition do one, fine by me.

[Mekong]

6 hours ago, Coss said:

Fairness? England were fined for "World Rugby regulations state opponents must not cross the halfway line while the Maori war dance is being performed and six England players could be seen in breach of the ruling last Saturday. " breaching regulations.

And "Aaron Smith also revealing Farrell was winking at him" so now we know that Owen Farrell likes a bit of stray.

quotes sourced from Mekong's link.

I'm not worried about the Haka one way or another, do it, don't, let the opposition do one, fine by me.

So why is there a rule in Rugby specific to the Haka. As you said should there also be a rule about infringing in opponents half if they are Morris SwordDancing or doing the River Dance?