JJsushi Posted April 10, 2003 Report Share Posted April 10, 2003 Says pattaya127: It's just so damned hard to get them to talk about stuff interesting! Usually interesting stuff depends on what culture, education, background you are from along with personal tastes. Do you talk to your GF about topics that she considers ineresting and then extrapolate tht into other topics that may pique her interests? Many people find art, history, politics and economics boring stuff. They would rather talk about movies, gossip, scandal and their friends/families. You mentioned your girlfriend only reading cartoons. Have you taught her to read something aside from that? I myself had to be taught to read a newspaper by my parents and when I was older the Wall St Journal, The Economist and other publications by peers, teachers and mentors. I had a Thai lass who never read a newspaper in her 21 years of life. She had a high school education but she only read the anime books. Everyday I read at least 2 international and one domestic newspaper in Thailand. I made it her responsibility to go and buy my daily newspapers along with 2 Thai language newspapers for her(one nonsense and one serious paper). I explained to her she needed to read them for various reasons. She was amazed at what she could learn from newpapers from gossip to employment opportunities and what her government was doing. No one had ever given her a reason to read a newspaper and she had never had an example of a person reading a daily paper in her life. Ever since that day she has never bought an anime book. She found them to be boring. I remember a smile was bought to my face one day when I popped over to her room and she was sittting on the floor surrounded by newspapers and reading them along with another girl. She told me the other girl started reading them with her because she wanted to know why my friend read dailies. Knowledge is infectious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunsanuk Posted April 10, 2003 Report Share Posted April 10, 2003 Hi, Funny thing is that in my household, it is my wife who reads the newspaper and watches news. I on the other hand cannot be bothered. I read a lot (novels, online articles, mailing lists, this board), but I never read newspapers. Sanuk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattaya127 Posted April 10, 2003 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2003 Knowledge is infectious. ------------------------------- let's hope so. My GF is one of the most stubborn person I know (after me, that is :. It's not only me, I've had more than a few friends encourage her too. The funny thing is, she is quite serious that her daughter gets good grades in school, and is very attentive to her progress. Which to me proves the point that the girls know that education is a good thing. I think she has resentment against her parents, because she wanted to join an army school, and they could not afford it. Seems the disappointment (and others i do not need to get into) broke her confidence in herself. Always hard for someone who meets her 10 years after to backtrack and burst the bubble. Or as the WHO sing: smash the mirror! But i have not given up on her (see first parentheses). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
check_bin_krap Posted April 10, 2003 Report Share Posted April 10, 2003 "My GF is one of the most stubborn person I know (after me, that is ). It's not only me, I've had more than a few friends encourage her too. The funny thing is, she is quite serious that her daughter gets good grades in school, and is very attentive to her progress. Which to me proves the point that the girls know that education is a good thing. " .................................................. Yes, when education is valued that much in Thailand it can be a tough setback what happened to your gf. My ex has always regretted not being able to get a higher education, it wasn't that easy when she grew up in a poor village. She reads a lot in Thai though, books, magazines and newspapers. A lot of religious stuff. I've also got a friend who is very into literature, and has that "not Thai at all" good sense of humour when she writes. But again, you have to master a second language pretty well to express a good sense of humour.. Keep up the good work with her P127, and she might start to read more! Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 10, 2003 Report Share Posted April 10, 2003 Says flyonzewall: no wonder. what else can you do in the long winters there than studying the map and wishing you wpould be in a warmer place? well, apart from bedsports. :hubba: Actually, we had the warmest winter in years. Beat all of the continental US and Europe I beleive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 10, 2003 Report Share Posted April 10, 2003 well, here in bangers this year we had no winter at all, which does piss me off tremendously! we went from a non existing winter straight into the frigging hot season now, and jeesas, it is hot now! sweating my arse off every day... this year i WILL go to europe on christmas, i haven't seen snow and all that in years. well, and all the christmas delicacies... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasmine Posted April 10, 2003 Report Share Posted April 10, 2003 Hi, [color:"red"] asked my GF about Mae Pho Sop (rice goddess), showed the name in thai, she was clueless. For sure, I'd love to learn more from the old folks, before they die. One question for you: given your good thai, i am sure it's damned rewarding, but what you learn, isn't it more about the inner workings of thai society and individuals + social psychology, more than greek tragedy and where is Eritrea? [/color] Many old folks have valuable knowledge, I, like you, love to talk to them. Well, if she is cluless on that subject, it just means that she was not reading or is not interested in learning from all sources available, especially from middle Thailand. I find the Isaan people very intelligent if they just have opportunities and interest. In Isaan, there is a ceremony to pay respect to the Rice Goddess but the name is different, I bet if you probe more she will recognize the name. Keep on encouraging her P127, she will turn around, you will see. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasmine Posted April 10, 2003 Report Share Posted April 10, 2003 [color:"red"]Showed a BG a world map to expain where I live. She could not even point out North America! And I could see that she could not care less. That one episode explained alot to me about the BG world. Bigfun [/color] I posted about the maps and the Thai women mentioned before. Most of these women have low education, average 6 yrs. of school and during those years they were never taught how to read maps. It isn't their fault, however, they should try to learn but spending time scheming to get good customers may be exhuasting them already. I think the Thais who graduate from colleges and don't know where North America is should be the ones need to re-evaluate their education. For the BG or many Thais with low education, it is not their doings, giving opportunities and the will to learn, these people are very intelligent. Mind you , I am not from Isaan but I find them very likeble and intelligent. :: Jasmine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattaya127 Posted April 11, 2003 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2003 she will turn around, you will see. --------------------------------- :o :o :: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 14, 2003 Report Share Posted April 14, 2003 Says valentinoxxx: Erm... there was a survey done recently showing most Americans couldn't pinpoint countries on a map. Not a good example. Ah, here it is; http://www.cnn.com/2002/EDUCATION/11/20/geography.quiz/ Does this explain the same to you about young Americans? This is a PM I received from bigfun in reply to my above post; V, Got your response about my young Americans. 1. you did not even understand my post. I could have used South America or Europe as an example. 2. At this time as we fight with Iraq and Americans are being killed daily you really pissed me off. "Does that explain young Americans". Hey F*ck you!. We are with war to free the people of Iraq. What the f*ck are you doing. Did you come up with that website about Young Americans all on your own? You must be a fuck'n genious! What's up with all that xxx shit on your username anyway? You some kind of fuck'n porn star? 3. Are you a fuck'n expert on Thailand? 4. You want to insult the people of America while we fight Iraq? I'm an 8 year veteren American Marine. So tell ya what. 4. Stay behind your f*ck'n keyboard and say shit about Americans. Cause that is the safest place you will ever be you _sshole! You must be in either .........aw fuck it. You don't deserve my time. I'll be in Bangkok in 3 weeks. Would just love to make your day. So F*CK YOU *SSHOLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Biggie(Censored) This bigfun's original post; "P127,I think you have a good point. The BG Rarely thinks beyond the bar enviroment. That is what they see every nite. And really could care less about anything outside of that. But that is what is expected I suppose. What I mean is this. Showed a BG a world map to expain where I live. She could not even point out North America! And I could see that she could not care less. That one episode explained alot to me about the BG world. Bigfun " 'nuff said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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