Old Hippie Posted August 20, 2007 Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 The only solution is for the US to leave, get the UN in as a peacekeeping force. Shared responsibility means things might change. China, Russia and others are loving it...they are big buddies now...supplying each other with arms, cheap goods etc. The US has focused too much on Iraq and it has probably cost it the 'only' superpower role. China, Russia and Indias rise was inevitable, but Iraq has hastened it and left the US very vulnerable. Iraq was a mistake. Everyone knew it. Certain people have made a shitload of money out of it however...and those people are close to Bush. But is it fair/right to ask the rest of the world to send their troops into harm's way when it was pretty much GWB's fault for creating this mess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted August 20, 2007 Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 Is it fair to ask the US military - who never wanted to be there in the first place - to stay? Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and every Congressman who voted for the war should have to go instead! That includes Hellery - and Blur has to lead the UK contingent in person (with only a couple of magazines of ammunition, the same as those Brit MPs were given). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreigner Posted August 20, 2007 Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 >I doubt that. The Mid East has a unique collection of things that make it violent that it had even before WWII or even WWI!< are your contending that Mesopotamia was a society of civil war .. I think not genius. [color:red]outisde the Boaring fence in SA help me with another 'whitie' subjected to 'whitie's' imperialisms.[/color] It is well documented that foreigner is not a well read person .. documenting whitie on whitie impearlism will be easy for the educated. one of the dim dwarfs called US actions in Western Asia imperialism in the Iowa debate yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lazyphil Posted August 20, 2007 Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 russia and the eastern block post ww2--the USSR. russians in the western time zones are white and so are east germans, hungarians, checzs etc etc. the romans stopped at the scottish borders, the weather was too inclement i think even for that hardy lot. or is this too far back in time using the roman (white) on other european countries (white) ...oh and gibralter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lazyphil Posted August 20, 2007 Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 Hitler had a pretty good shot (white on white) at imperialism. wasn't he impressed by the british empire?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreigner Posted August 20, 2007 Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 an educated genius should enjoy a debate with a double digit idiot .. hows 'bout: don't debate .. provide documentation.. verifiable facts & not ideologue name calling.. I think (definitely an oxymoron) you were calling me a dummie over my doubt that whitie on whitie imperialism was common .. or was it my contention that all areas of 21st century terror were 'colonies' in the 20th. [color:red]name an area of 21st century terror that was not previously f'd up by the UK![/color] hint: start at Rayong & head wnw young man .. this has got to be easy pickins for the educated amongst them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreigner Posted August 20, 2007 Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 so stalin & hitler were same same as king george & Lord Mountblatin (hard to type 'Lord' without LOL!) & kindly 'ol Leopold. BUT, we finally agree on something. hail hail .. a momentous posting experience. what about the anglo's aggression on the Scots, Welch & Irish.. same same hitler, too? [color:red]Hitler has now become the standard of acceptable behavior![/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Hippie Posted August 20, 2007 Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 Is it fair to ask the US military - who never wanted to be there in the first place - to stay? Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and every Congressman who voted for the war should have to go instead! That includes Hellery - and Blur has to lead the UK contingent in person (with only a couple of magazines of ammunition, the same as those Brit MPs were given). Excellent point! I don't think you will see the domestic side kick up enough to stop the war...UN:ESS, they bring back the draft...then, when it is a matter of "mandatory butts on the line" you will see people get active. In other words, when they or their kids have to go, then they will care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreigner Posted August 20, 2007 Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 re draft: will be hard to get the triple digit types, ones that can read & such, to blindly kill innocents .. murder based based on lies & greed is an easier sell to the freedom frier ideologues. easy to get (low) double digit ideologues to do what ever you want them to do. the pat tillman types are a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreigner Posted August 20, 2007 Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 western asia issues: 1. Post WWI Break up of Mesopotamia: includes Palestine, Syria, Iraq .. 2. Basra's Kuwait. Kuwait was part of the Mesopotamian State of Basra & except for colonial imperialism would be part of Iraq's southern state of Basra. 3. Palestine is Arab: 4.3 million descendants of the original 700,000 displaced Arabs are in apartheid camps. * Gaza, 8 camps, 478,854 refugees * o 1948, Beach camp (Shati), 76,109 o 1949, Bureij, 30,059 o 1948, Deir el-Balah camp, 20,188 o 1948, Jabalia (Jabaliya), 103,646 o 1949, Khan Yunis, 60,662 o 1949, Maghazi, 22,536 o 1949, Nuseirat, 64,233 o 1949, Rafah camp, 90,638 * Jordan, 10 camps, 304,430 refugees o 1955, Amman New Camp (Wihdat), 49,805 o 1968, Baqa'a, 80,100 o 1968, Husn (Martyr Azmi el-Mufti), 19,573 o 1968, Irbid camp, 23,512 o 1952, Jabal el-Hussein, 27,674 o 1968, Jerash camp, 15,696 o 1968, Marka, 41,237 o 1967, Souf, 14,911 o 1968, Talbieh, 4,041 o 1949, Zarqa camp, 17,344 * Lebanon, total number of registered refugees is 409,714[1] 12 official camps with 225,125 refugees * o 1955, Beddawi, 15,695 o 1948, Burj el-Barajneh, 19,526 o 1955, Burj el-Shemali, 18,134 o 1956, Dbayeh, 4,223 o Dikwaneh, destroyed o 1948, Ein el-Hilweh, 44,133 o 1948, El-Buss, 9,840 o Jisr el-Basha, destroyed o 1952, Mar Elias, 1,406 o 1954, Mieh Mieh, 5,078 o Nabatieh camp, destroyed in 1973 o 1949, Nahr al-Bared, 28,358 o 1963, Rashidieh, 24,679 o Sabra o 1949, Shatila, 11,998 o 1948, Wavel, 7,357 * Syria, 10 official camps with 119,776 refugees * o 1950, Dera'a, 5,916 o 1967, Dera'a (Emergency), 5,536 o 1950, Hama, 7,597 o 1949, Homs, 13,825 o 1948, Jaramana, 5,007 o 1950, Khan Dunoun, 8,603 o 1949, Khan Eshieh, 15,731 o 1948, Neirab, 17,994 o 1967, Qabr Essit, 16,016 o 1948, Sbeineh, 19,624 Additional unofficial camps in Syria: * o 1955-6, Latakia camp, 6,534 registered refugees o 1957, Yarmouk (Damascus), 112,550 registered refugees o 1962, Ein Al-Tal, 4,329 registered refugees[2] * West Bank, 19 camps, 176,514 refugees * o ,Abu-Dies (residents of this camp claim the territory of Ma'ale Adummim as their own)[2]. o 1950, Aida, 4,151 o 1949, Am'ari, 8,083 o 1948, Aqabat Jabr, 5,197 o 1950, Arroub, 9,180 o 1950, Askar, 13,894 o 1950, Balata, 20,681 o 1950, Beit Jibrin, 1,828 o 1950, Camp No.1, 6,221 o 1949, Deir Ammar, 2,189 o 1949, Dheisheh, 10,923 o 1948, Ein el-Sultan, 1,888 o 1949, Far'a, 6,836 o 1949, Fawwar, 7,072 o 1949, Jalazone, 9,284 o 1953, Jenin, 14,050 o 1949, Kalandia, 9,188 o 1952, Nur Shams, 8,179 o 1965, Shu'fat, 9,567 o 1950, Tulkarm, 16,259 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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