khun_khon_neua Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 Yes, I have indeed lived in a small studio, but I am well into my fifties now, I am at my prime income producing years and intend to make the most of it so in 5 years I can retire and continue to pretty much live this lifestyle. I have no problem with someone that does not want to make it a large corporation and chooses their own way. It just doesnâ??t make sense to me to do that in developing country, it seems me that is like traveling down a one way street that you are not even sure where it ends up. Iâ??m sure my perspective is skewed by my greatest fear, which is being old and poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTO Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 OK - I take back my argument Exactly - people need time off the corporate tread mill - or bicycle in your case! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobbledonk Posted May 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 If it's not too late, I suggest you reconsider Bangkok and go instead to Khon Kaen. KK will provide your sought-after Thai cultural thing, the unie runs a great Thai langauge programme, it's cheaper in every respect and there's no NEP/SC/PP man-trapwaiting to relieve you of your cash (there is a night-life scene, but very different from BKK) Thanks for the tip, CB, but if I was going to consider somewhere outside of BKK it would probably be Chiang Mai (never been, but hear good things) . I know Stick said that Isaan seemed cooler to him than Bangkok on a recent visit, but its generally accepted that Isaan is hotter and more humid than the northern cities such as Chiang Mai - please correct me if I'm wrong. I will be back in Oz by the time it cools down up there, so I wouldnt have to deal with that aspect of the climate (I expect that it will be the rainy season June-October). That said, I'm assured that BKK has more to offer than nightlife (P4P or otherwise), and I want to see the other side of the Big Mango. Like any big city, I have no doubt that it will be a love/hate relationship, but I need to put my toe in the water if I'm to retire in 5 years. I do intend to take a brief trip to Isaan, just to see some of the towns that feature so prominently on this board and elsewhere. Other than Pattaya, I've never ventured outside of BKK, so it will be an experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drogon Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 Go to KK.... Although this is not Udon Thani, sin city or bangers, you still have opportunities to find P4P. A huge uni campus full of ladies who might accept a sugar daddy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobbledonk Posted May 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 A huge uni campus full of ladies who might accept a sugar daddy How is this different to sponsoring a bargirl ? This is where the 'morality' of it all annoys the shit out of me - if a 'good' girl accepts money and gifts from a Farang, she's just 'paying for college', but if its a bargirl, she's an illiterate mercenary whore. At any given time, 20 or so of the Japanese girls who live in my current town advertise themselves as being available for 'generous gentlemen' : I doubt that they cop the same stigma that a working girl in Bangkok or Pattaya has to endure, and no-one rolls their eyes or elbows you in the ribs when you mention ' a Japanese girl I met' (I believe Hawaii may be different, but they dont have that 'rep' here). Its all about being perceived as a third-world peasant versus being seen as an educated woman with money. -- end of rant -- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drogon Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 GD: There is stricly no difference between a uni girl having a sugar daddy, a coyote dancer having sponsors and sugar daddy, a regular Thai lady accepting big gifts and money and a regular BG. Only difference is the stigma in the damn fucked up Thai society (and not only) Back here: A woman marrying a very wealthy guy then divorcing is seen by many as a social success and a clever woman....not just a bitch. While a prostitute: Has a huge stigma Fucked up world we live in... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekong Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 Yes, I have indeed lived in a small studio, but I am well into my fifties now, I am at my prime income producing years and intend to make the most of it so in 5 years I can retire and continue to pretty much live this lifestyle. I have no problem with someone that does not want to make it a large corporation and chooses their own way. It just doesnâ??t make sense to me to do that in developing country, it seems me that is like traveling down a one way street that you are not even sure where it ends up. Iâ??m sure my perspective is skewed by my greatest fear, which is being old and poor. KKN, I am in total agreement with your philosophy. I left the UK when I was 24 and after spendimg 3 years working in Asia and R'n'R in Thailand I picked up a contract here when I was 27. For the next 13 years it was a succession of contract jobs all over, I would do 8 months in Saudi and then chill out in Thailand for 6 months, a few months in Oman then back to Thailand for a few months. I had a great lifestyle for 13 years doing that but on my 40th birthday I decided it was time to knuckle down and save for the future, utilise my earning potential. For the past 4 years I have been working full time and steadily the bank balance is building up. With weekends holidays and Bank Holidays over 37% of the time I don't have to get up for work the next morning and I spend 51% of my nights at home in BKK. I will be retiring here, no intentions of going back to UK to live, Thai wife who has a damn good job, apartment in CBD paid for, a large plot of land (10 Rai) between Rangsit and Nakon Nayok where we will eventualy retire to. If I was to work another 11 years I will be 55 then and the wife will be 45 and hopefully have an income from investments that will allow us to live a comfortable life and finance trips to Australia, Europe and the Americas in the later years without worrying about money too much. It is probably easier for me to knuckle down since between 1991 and 2004 probably 40% of my time was spent in vacation mode in Thailand and around SE Asia, approx 5 years out of 13 having fun and living it up whilst saving a minimal ammount of money. They do say life begins at 40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drogon Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 Mekong wish I would be able to do like you Of course if I was not spending money on BG/having tried to live with one BG then I could retire at 40... Wonder if it would be a good idea to buy now a condo in BKK and still retire in 10 years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Munchmaster Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 Mekong wish I would be able to do like you Me to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekong Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 Munchie, Given our previous history of winding each other up I am unsure if your comments are genuine or a piss take, but we have both assured KS that we will both be civil towards each other so I will take it in that context. I have made some monumental fuck ups on the path to where I am today, if I was to write a 17 chapter book of the 17 years I have been here the first 13 would be a "What Not to Do" lesson, back in 91 I was the young (ish) dumb cunt who thought he knew it all and laughed off the advice I was given, in retrospect if I had not been so egotistical back then I would be a lot better of now than I am ... but would I of had as nuch fun? What should I regret the most, following the life I have led or to grow old and regret missing out on the experiences I would have missed out on if I had been sensible (in certain eyes). I don't go to bookies. I dont go to casinos, life in itself is the ultimate gamble. I know you hate my tagline but life in itself is a game and we are all players. Do you want to know who I am? My biological mother was a whore working the docks in Salford in the early 60's my biological father was one of many sailors who frequented the docks and took comfort there, the reason I was born in the Isle of Man was because my biological mother was Manx and went home to mom when she was pregnant. I was in a convent in Salford when I was less than 10 days old and adopted just before my first birthday. I remember ftom the age of 5 years on how my "sisters" 14 and 12 resented me, calling me the "hand picked puppy of the family" it was shite like that that made me competative and made me want to prove myself and drive me on to better myself. I know I may come across as an egotistical competive asshole in the forum but it only reflects real life, for as long as I can remember I have always had to fight for myself and defend myself, my life my game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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