Bangkoktraveler Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 There is a report in the "Spectrum" section of today's Bangkok Post about this. Maybe someone here can provide the link, but here is one interesting excerpt from the article: "Official records show a sharp rise in in criminal offences at the airport, expecially those involving shoplifting..." No idea on the numbers, but a sharp rise that cannot be otherwise be explained is suspicious. Certainly more suspicious than any low resolution and inconclusive video KP posts on the interent. The case involving this British couple is definitely not the only case involving scam allegations. Indeed, the article in The Times never really was about a shop lifting arrest at the airport. Hence, the posts arguing about what the video does or does not show are sort of besides the point. The story here is about what appears to be an on-going scam between (a) private personnel operating in the so-called "secure" area of Suvarnabhumi and ( officials. That is what is alarming. This is what makes it news, and this is why it is so damaging. This is not only concerns tourists, but also security officials in other countries. You know this has to set off alarm bells in other countries. If there is this sort of scam going on in the airport, what else is going on? Recall the airport takeover late last years and feeble ("pretend") efforts to restore order. Can we trust the security procedures at Suvarnabhumi? What sort of precautionary measures should we take? If we know about this, and we don't take precautions, and something major happens, everyone will be asking these same questions and asking them of us. You know these and other questios must be going through the minds of security officials at the various embassies in Bangkok and the airlines that use this airport. You make a good point nobody else is noticing .... the airport is suppose to be secured, but apparently it is not. Bangkok could end up being a country of origin for terrorist to travel to other parts of the world without fear of being detected due to the corruption at the airport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTO Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 Flash - I didn't see any Shin's on KP either - spreading mis-information is a two way street Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurinBum Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 King Power Group p.s. I do not see KP listed among the Crown Property Bureau's holdings. Just because it might not be listed or recorded 'officially', doesn't mean it might not be apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurinBum Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 There is a report in the "Spectrum" section of today's Bangkok Post about this. Maybe someone here can provide the link' date=' but here is one interesting excerpt from the article: "Official records show a sharp rise in in criminal offences at the airport, expecially those involving shoplifting..." No idea on the numbers, but a sharp rise that cannot be otherwise be explained is suspicious. Certainly more suspicious than any low resolution and inconclusive video KP posts on the interent. The case involving this British couple is definitely not the only case involving scam allegations. Indeed, the article in The Times never really was about a shop lifting arrest at the airport. Hence, the posts arguing about what the video does or does not show are sort of besides the point. The story here is about what appears to be an on-going scam between (a) private personnel operating in the so-called "secure" area of Suvarnabhumi and ( officials. That is what is alarming. This is what makes it news, and this is why it is so damaging. This is not only concerns tourists, but also security officials in other countries. You know this has to set off alarm bells in other countries. If there is this sort of scam going on in the airport, what else is going on? Recall the airport takeover late last years and feeble ("pretend") efforts to restore order. Can we trust the security procedures at Suvarnabhumi? What sort of precautionary measures should we take? If we know about this, and we don't take precautions, and something major happens, everyone will be asking these same questions and asking them of us. You know these and other questios must be going through the minds of security officials at the various embassies in Bangkok and the airlines that use this airport.[/quote'] You make a good point nobody else is noticing .... the airport is suppose to be secured, but apparently it is not. Bangkok could end up being a country of origin for terrorist to travel to other parts of the world without fear of being detected due to the corruption at the airport. Terrorists? Any specific groups you might have in mind? What makes them terrorists? In directly, there are tousands of terrorists that come through Swampy on a daily basis - depending, of course, what one's difinition of terrorism might be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 << Just because it might not be listed or recorded 'officially', doesn't mean it might not be apart. >> With that argument, you can "prove" anything about any subject you want. Now here are the makings of a conspiracy theory, if I ever saw one: << [color:red]The CPB is the majority shareholder of[/color] Siam Cement (the largest Thai industrial and petrochemical conglomerates), Christiani & Nielsen (one of the largest construction firms), Deves Insurance (one of the largest insurers), Siam Commercial Bank (one of the largest banks), and [color:red]Shin Corporation (a major telecommunications firm, through the CPB's holdings in Siam Commercial Bank)[/color]. >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_Property_Bureau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurinBum Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 Why does everything need to be conscrewed as conspiratorial? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTO Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Good investments - they invested a lot in Shin did they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadfly Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 How about some investigative reporters, with big balls, doing a flip scam on the scammers? The BBC did a bit of this with a reporter pretending to be a distressed traveler with problems. He was immediately directed to the scam artist. Further confirmation that there is, in fact, a scam happening at the airport. Anything major, like going up the food chain to those running the scam, is dangerous here. The local spin will be that the foreign press is picking on Thai businesses. Some people will even believe this. The laws here favor the stores and scamsters since defamation is a criminal offense, and truth doesn't seem to be much of a defense. The reporters will get charged with defamation, may actually be thrown in jail and we'll read - even here - about how "guests" must comply with the local laws. That has been the recent pattern in Thailand with how the authorities treat foreign journalists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadfly Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 You make a good point nobody else is noticing .... the airport is suppose to be secured, but apparently it is not. Bangkok could end up being a country of origin for terrorist to travel to other parts of the world without fear of being detected due to the corruption at the airport. There is a link between (a) corruption and ( terrorism. The US authorities certainly believe htere is a link. The classic incident involving airports was the incident involving terrorists from Chechnya that smuggled bombs onto a plane at the Moscow airport. It was apparantly well known that you could avoid the line to clear security and the metal detector by paying US$50. They did so, got on a plane, and it blew up in mid-air killing all on board. The people who handle security for airlines and governments will know more about this and how dangerous this sort of corruption is at an international airport. I am sure the scam stories at Bangkok's international airport - particularly after the security forces essentially permitted protestors to occupy the airport - have not only caught the attention of the press. This is also an aviation security issue, which is not good for Thailand in this post 9/11 world.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiHome Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Actually I believe the bribe was paid to buy the tickets without proper identification not to get by security. The airport security guard that failed to search the 2 women, who were accompanied by 2 males, was convicted of negligence. I bet there was a loud discussion about a male searching a Muslim female and he just gave up. Link I just love the way you bend the facts to make your dots connect. TH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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