Usa Thread

[Old Hippie]

15 hours ago, bust said:

Does Australia medicate kids the school dreams “hyperactive?”

Approximately 1 in 20 kids get diagnosed with some type of hyperactivity disorder however only about 40% will resort to medication.

Is there a massive gang and drug problem?

I wouldn't call it massive however it does exist and is generally ethnic associated. As for drugs the violence is generally over the control of distribution at a high level not street level.

What is the overall crime rate/violent crime rate then and now?

The average firearm homicide rate went down by about 42 percent in the first 7 years. There was a continued decline however the rate has increased again slightly over the last 5 years. Worth mentioning though there has not been a mass shooting since 1996. The last one I remember a man shot dead his wife, daughter, and four grandchildren, before committing suicide however this was considered a domestic violent crime.

Does the average Australian dimwit fear the government and thinks he and his buddies can resist “government tyranny” by taking up arms?

No. We don't elect Reality TV Grifters as leaders either.

Are there white separatist movements in Australia?

National Socialist Network fits that description however very small in numbers and are generally shut down pretty swiftly once they poke their collective heads up.

And there you go, Apples to oranges. Trump, hate him and as embarrassed by him as I am, was right, a lot of the immigrants, mainly those here without documentation, are scum and are here for a bad reason/cause. We don’t do enough to them when caught, if we did, maybe they’d stop coming? 

We have I don’t know how many different “separtist” groups here in the USA, but it is a lot. ALL fear the government and hate the government, EXCEPT for the part that allows them to have guns and “train to resist government tyranny…” These assholes are full of shit. They think, *IF* they resist enough, then army units will join them and they will “take back America…” They won’t. 

Frankly, I don’t care if these people want “assault weapons” they can have them, but they shouldn’t be so damned easy to get! There are people who have complied with the law, gotten them and then bran amok…clearly there is a flaw in the law. 

The other key part I left out is the southern border…Australia does not share an easily crossed land border with another country, the USA does. This border is compromised in many areas and the government does nothing…want to bring in a few Cuban cigars? The border patrol will crack ass and stop you…want to smuggle in a few kilos of coke/meth/whatever or a few dozen people? Well go right ahead, we don’t want to be called racist and stop you…

[Coss]

She's a complex problem, these dead children et al, when we're not expecting them to die.

[Coss]

And because this never gets old, a list of folk who once thought that Trump was a good idea:

Steve Bannon

Convicted in 2022 of contempt of Congress for defying a subpoena from the January 6 committee
Sentenced to 4 months in prison, which he began serving in 2024

Peter Navarro

Convicted of contempt of Congress in 2023 for defying a January 6 committee subpoena
Began serving a 4-month prison sentence in March 2024

Roger Stone

Convicted in 2019 on seven counts including obstruction, witness tampering, and false statements
Sentenced to over 3 years in prison, but had his sentence commuted by Trump in 2020

Paul Manafort

Convicted in 2018 of financial crimes including tax fraud and bank fraud
Sentenced to 7.5 years in prison, but pardoned by Trump in 2020

Michael Cohen

Pleaded guilty in 2018 to campaign finance violations, tax evasion, and making false statements
Served 3 years in prison

Michael Flynn

Pleaded guilty in 2017 to lying to the FBI about contacts with Russia
Later pardoned by Trump

George Papadopoulos

Pleaded guilty in 2017 to lying to investigators about Russian contacts
Served 12 days in prison before being pardoned by Trump

Rick Gates

Pleaded guilty in 2018 to conspiracy and lying to the FBI
Sentenced to 45 days in jail and 3 years probation

Allen Weisselberg

Pleaded guilty in 2022 to tax fraud scheme at Trump Organization
Sentenced to 5 months in prison in 2023
Pleaded guilty to additional perjury charges in 2024, sentenced to another 5 months

Rudy Giuliani

Had his law license suspended in New York and Washington D.C. in 2021 for making false statements about the 2020 election
Filed for bankruptcy in December 2023 after being ordered to pay $148 million in a defamation lawsuit

Sidney Powell

Had her law license suspended in Texas in 2023 for her role in filing lawsuits challenging the 2020 election results
Pleaded guilty to misdemeanor charges in Georgia related to efforts to overturn the 2020 election

John Eastman

Facing disbarment proceedings in California for his role in attempts to overturn the 2020 election
Charged alongside Trump in the Georgia election interference case

Jeffrey Clark

Former DOJ official facing potential disbarment in Washington D.C. for his role in Trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election
Also charged in the Georgia election interference case

Jenna Ellis

Censured by a Colorado court in 2023 for making false statements about the 2020 election
Pleaded guilty to a felony charge in the Georgia election case

Kenneth Chesebro

Pleaded guilty to a felony charge in the Georgia election interference case
Agreed to testify against other defendants as part of his plea deal

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Just the headliners.

[Coss]

OH's post above, draws some good points and I don't argue with them.

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...The Drumpf from Germany said - "communities will “never be the same” after having been “inundated” with immigrants".

This post is just to draw attention to Trump's out and out appeal to racism.

Technically he's correct, the U.S.A. has been inundated by immigrants, since forever, that's the founding basis of the place.

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"On Monday, Donald Trump held a rally in Pennsylvania, where he once again repeated lies about Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Ohio. Trump told the crowd that Ohio and Pennsylvania communities will “never be the same” after having been “inundated” with immigrants.

“They will never be — do you think Springfield will never be the same? The fact is, and I’ll say it now, you have to get them the hell out. You have to get them out. I’m sorry. Get them out,” Trump said.

The crowd then erupted into applause with spectators chanting: “Send them back!”

That kind of response from Trump’s rallygoers should hardly come as a surprise. Back in July, the crowd at the Republican National Convention in Milwaukee held up signs reading “MASSDEPORTATION NOW!”... "

https://www.msnbc.com/top-stories/latest/trump-ohio-haitian-immigrants-mass-deportation-rcna172679

by

Charlie Sykes - a conservative

 

[Mekong]

Trumps parents weren’t immigrants, neither was his wife, immigrants are only brown in the eyes of the Fascist Republicans 

Also Melania was an illegal immigrant. Working as a model on a tourist visa, but the orange one never mentions that, who was somehow fast tracked for an “Einstein Visa” The EB-1A Visa is an employment-based immigrant visa category that serves top-performing experts. Historically, it has been an immigration pathway for luminaries in the sciences, arts, education, business, and athletics, Christ knows what Melania’s skill set was, but I don’t see blowing the future president on that list.

Melania Visa

[Coss]

46 minutes ago, Mekong said:

Christ knows what Melania’s skill set was

Horizontal gymnastics.

[bust]

Imagine how dull the world would be if we all stayed home.

[Old Hippie]

22 hours ago, Coss said:

OH's post above, draws some good points and I don't argue with them.

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...The Drumpf from Germany said - "communities will “never be the same” after having been “inundated” with immigrants".

This post is just to draw attention to Trump's out and out appeal to racism.

Technically he's correct, the U.S.A. has been inundated by immigrants, since forever, that's the founding basis of the place.

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"On Monday, Donald Trump held a rally in Pennsylvania, where he once again repeated lies about Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Ohio. Trump told the crowd that Ohio and Pennsylvania communities will “never be the same” after having been “inundated” with immigrants.

“They will never be — do you think Springfield will never be the same? The fact is, and I’ll say it now, you have to get them the hell out. You have to get them out. I’m sorry. Get them out,” Trump said.

The crowd then erupted into applause with spectators chanting: “Send them back!”

That kind of response from Trump’s rallygoers should hardly come as a surprise. Back in July, the crowd at the Republican National Convention in Milwaukee held up signs reading “MASSDEPORTATION NOW!”... "

https://www.msnbc.com/top-stories/latest/trump-ohio-haitian-immigrants-mass-deportation-rcna172679

by

Charlie Sykes - a conservative

 

These immigrants you speak of, would include therump’s ancestors as well as those of the people yelling “send them back.” 

[Old Hippie]

18 hours ago, Mekong said:

Trumps parents weren’t immigrants, neither was his wife, immigrants are only brown in the eyes of the Fascist Republicans 

Also Melania was an illegal immigrant. Working as a model on a tourist visa, but the orange one never mentions that, who was somehow fast tracked for an “Einstein Visa” The EB-1A Visa is an employment-based immigrant visa category that serves top-performing experts. Historically, it has been an immigration pathway for luminaries in the sciences, arts, education, business, and athletics, Christ knows what Melania’s skill set was, but I don’t see blowing the future president on that list.

Melania Visa

2 of therump’s wives were/are immigrants. I think therump’s grand parents (?) were immigrants, not that it matters when, but anyone Non-native, is an immigrant or descendent of immigrants. Years back, former first latex and supposed Lesbian, Eleanore Roosevelt addressed the Daughters of the American Revolution (for those who don’t know, this is one of many white Anglo Saxon exclusionary groups that basically think they own the country) her opening words were “greetings fellow immigrants…” their jaws dropped and many took offense! How dare they be called “immigrants!” These are white Protestant people, immigrants are often dark, speak different languages and may worship a different/the wrong god..!

[Coss]

And just for giggles, here in NZ the first peoples were brown (~8-900 yrs ago) and the subsequent immigrants mostly white (~2-300yrs ago), until about 100 yrs ago when multicolour became the more the norm.

So NZ was mainly Moa and Kiwi and Tuatara before then. No discernible government.

What's changed?... they say...