Usa Thread

[Steve]

Do foreigners have a constitutional right?

 

BTW I have no desire to own an assault rifle or any weapon with a 30 round magazine. Don't know why anyone would. It appears that Connecticut, where the latest fruitloop shot up a school, actually does. But the mother was allowed to buy one anyway.

 

Hey Flash (and Merry Christmas) I was unclear. If you are a U.S. citizen who has a DUI overseas and has been convicted you can get a gun in the states. I am saying if you have an overseas conviction, it negates you from having a gun in America.

 

What about effed up things like if you owe taxes or something like that. Basically silly things to restrict the use. Basically pristine individuals.

[TroyinEwa/Perv]

I think we'd better ban gasoline.

 

http://www.kbtx.com/home/headlines/Explosion-in-Dallas--184728721.html

[unit731]

Whatever wording the lawmakers come up with some manufacturer will just adapt the firearm to circumvent the specific wording of such.

 

Connecticut Gun Laws.

 

Ban on "assault" rifles.

 

A) A semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least two of the following:

i. a folding or telescopic stock;

ii. a pistol grip;

iii. a bayonet mount;

iv. a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor; and

v. a grenade launcher.

 

 

LINK

[unit731]

"If Zimmerman had followed these instructions, Trayvon Martin would still be alive today and Zimmerman would not be facing the possibility of life imprisonment if he is found guilty of the charge of second-degree murder that a state prosecutor finally brought against him, after a long delay.

 

The constitutional right to bear arms does not make people who carry guns a law unto themselves. The right is also subject to reasonable regulation. But both these propositions are under constant fire in the culture wars about guns that have polarized the country for decades. Liberals appalled by gun violence argue that nobody but the police should carry guns; conservatives and the National Rifle Association and other gun-rights lobbies have succeeded in getting 30 states to pass “stand your ground†and “home castle†laws enabling people to carry concealed weapons for self-defense and making it easier for them to use those weapons when they feel threatened. Those laws also make it easier for violent criminals to get away with murder."

 

LINK

 

 

What? ALEC again?

 

"In a statement, ALEC confirmed that it drafted model legislation based on the Florida law but rebuffed accusations that it is responsible for the idea. The organization also criticized activists for exploiting Trayvon's death to score political points."

 

LINK

[Steve]

There was another 'Stand your ground' incident in Florida several weeks ago. A guy was at a gas station in his car waiting for his wife to come back from the cashier. A car pulls up with 4 young people and they are playing music too loud for the guy in the car waiting for his wife. He tells them to turn it down and an argument happens. The young people come out of their car, the guy waiting for his wife has a gun and shoots them saying he felt his life was threatened. He fired off 8 shots I believe.

People tried to draw similarities to the Martin-Zimmeman case because the shooter was White and the young folks were Black.

People questioned why he 1) fired off 8 shots. The youngsters had no weapons and some reason that if he had a gun and brandished it, there is very little reason they would still advance on him. If that was what they were doing. one shot would make someone without a gun run even if they had numerical superiority. 2) he initiated the original contact.

 

The problem I have with the Stand Your Ground law is that any heated argument can end in justifiable homocide if the shooter feels his life is threatened. We have different opinions on what constitutes life being theatened. Simple arguments after a car accident where you're in someone's face. I've seen that often, under this law there would have been more homocides over your typical argument.

[unit731]

"WASHINGTON – The Supreme Court has come forcefully down on the side of an Idaho couple in its fight against the Environmental Protection Agency, unanimously ruling Wednesday that the couple can challenge an EPA order to stop construction of their home on property designated a wetland.

 

The ruling allows the couple to challenge the EPA head-on in court, but the real battle begins now. The case has brought attention to the EPA's reach. While the court only allowed a challenge to be brought, in a concurring opinion, Justice Samuel Alito noted that the law allowing EPA to demand compliance is overly broad."

 

 

LINK

[Bangkoktraveler]

The news claim Adam Lanza wanted to be a Marine.

 

His mother discouraged him claiming the issue of him not wanting people to touch him might come up.

[cavanami]

Something to think about...

 

 

...and you think "they" are looking out for your interests???

[zzzz]

A news reporter on TV displayed a 30-round magazine to make a point. This happened in DC where it's illegal to even possess a 30-round magazine. So now, the news is about whether this reporter violated the law. http://www.huffingto..._n_2364637.html

 

In MD, it's OK to possess 30-round magazine but illegal to transfer it. So if you want a 30-round magazine in MD, you have to go across the border to VA where transfer is legal, buy it there, and bring it back to MD. Staying legal can be hard work for gunowners.

[robaus]

 

Something to think about...

 

 

...and you think "they" are looking out for your interests???

 

Here's the UK, Canadian, NZ and Aus Head of State and her 2 successors hiding behind her bullet proof Harry Potter cloak of invisibility...speaks volumes about our comparative lifestyles, eh!