paul101 Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 ALHOLK said:Ever heard of "God's army in Uganda"? No, it's called the Lords resistance army but has no policy and as far as I know no real religious beliefs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul101 Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 Seems quite a big difference between mad cults that commit the odd murder and worldwide terrorism whose members largely belong to a world religion, or maybe it's just a matter of scale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 The scale doesn't matter if you are the one being done in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALHOLK Posted November 12, 2005 Report Share Posted November 12, 2005 Hi! Mo "God's army" was a translation of what they are called in Sweden and they are still terrorists and definitely christians. My post was just about the bullshit claim that all terrorists are muslims. Ever heard of the IRA or the ETA. regards ALHOLK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Flashermac Posted November 13, 2005 Report Share Posted November 13, 2005 The Sunday Times November 13, 2005 Al-Qaeda calls Queen an "enemy of Islam" by Abul Taher AL-QAEDA has threatened the Queen by naming her as "one of the severest enemies of Islam" in a video message to justify the July bombings in London. The warning has been passed by MI5 to the Queen's protection team after it obtained the unexpurgated version of a video issued by Al-Qaeda after the 7/7 attacks. Parts of it were broadcast on Al-Jazeera, the Arabic satellite channel. In the video, Ayman al-Zawahiri, second-in-command to Osama Bin Laden, targets the Queen as ultimately responsible for Britain's "crusader laws" and denounces her as an enemy of Muslims. A senior Whitehall official said: "MI5 is aware that there are some pieces of that video that have not been aired. They are aware of the bit of al-Zawahiri talking about the Queen and they have notified the relevant authorities." The Sunday Times has obtained the full 27-minute video, which is circulating on secure jihadist websites in the Middle East used to recruit and inflame prospective terrorists. In Britain it has been posted by Muhammad al-Massari, the London-based Saudi extremist, on his website Tajdeed. It also contains inflammatory material from Mohammad Sidique Khan, ringleader of the London bombings which killed 52 commuters. He is urging Muslims to take part in jihad and seek martyrdom. Khan, 30, incites British Muslims to ignore the moderate Islamic leaders who want integration with British society. "Our so-called scholars of today," he said, "are content with their Toyotas and semi- detached houses" in their desire for integration. The message is believed to be the first of its kind in which a British suicide bomber calls on fellow UK Muslims to follow his example. The attack by al-Zawahiri prompted intelligence officers to alert Buckingham Palace that the Queen had become a specific target of Al-Qaeda. Her security had already been upgraded after September 11, 2001. In the video al-Zawahiri not only labels the Queen as one of Islam's "severest enemies" but also sends a warning shot to British Islamic leaders who "work for the pleasure of Elizabeth, the head of the Church of England". He said those who followed her were saying: "We are British citizens, subject to Britain's crusader laws, and we are proud of our submission . . . to Elizabeth, head of the Church of England." In a possible reference to the role of the Muslim Council of Britain, which had issued instructions to mosques to inform on potential terrorists, he criticised "those who issue fatwas, according to the school of thought of the head of the Church of England". In the previously unseen footage, Khan, from Dewsbury in West Yorkshire, said: "It is very clear, brothers and sisters, that the path of jihad and the desire for martyrdom is embedded in the holy prophet and his beloved companions. "By preparing ourselves for this kind of work, we are guaranteeing ourselves for paradise and gaining the pleasure of Allah. "And by turning our back on this work, we are guaranteeing ourselves humiliation and the anger of Allah. Jihad is an obligation on every single one of us, men and women." Khan's message was condemned by Sir Iqbal Sacranie, the Muslim Council's secretary-general, as a "perverse interpretation of Islam". "The victims of Sidique Khan were innocent people. It's clearly inciteful. It's trying to incite people to commit murder," he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunsanuk Posted November 13, 2005 Report Share Posted November 13, 2005 Hi, "He said those who followed her were saying: "We are British citizens, subject to Britain's crusader laws, and we are proud of our submission . . . to Elizabeth, head of the Church of England."" Uh... I am certain the British government isn't forcing these people to live in the UK. This is the part I do not understand, they *chose* to live in the West, yet do not agree with anything it does. If so, why not move to the Middle-East and live the way you want to? I'm also a bit surprised that the West is so tolerant in letting these people stay and preach this shit. What do you think would happen if a farang started a website here telling other farangs that they should cause terrorist acts in an effort to topple the Thai government? How about doing this in any of the Arab countries? I'd say you'd be lucky to just get deported. Sanuk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 13, 2005 Report Share Posted November 13, 2005 "Didn;t know that the Tamils in Sri Lanka had changed religion, or many nutters in Africa on both sides of religion, or "legalised" terrorism of Israel, or the Christian Terrorists of Indonesia" Yeah, sure, quite a mix in there... and palestinian are acting in self defence hence the EU should go on subsiding the buggers :: well at least you're not the only one sharing this opinoin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lazyphil Posted November 13, 2005 Report Share Posted November 13, 2005 KS, I fear these Islamic extremists will make life harder for the likes of my mrs by the growing NF and BNP. I wish they'd fuck off back to where they came from, if they were born here then back to where their folks came from, start respecting the way of life here then feel free to stay. Its up to immigrants to adjust to life here not for us to adjust to them (and yes they can keep their religion etc, I'm not suggesting they should convert to christianity etc). I see plenty of immigrants from everywhere making an effort to be productive, just boot out the trouble makers, how hard can that be for fucks sake!!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul101 Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 ALHOLK said:Hi! Mo "God's army" was a translation of what they are called in Sweden and they are still terrorists and definitely christians. My post was just about the bullshit claim that all terrorists are muslims. Ever heard of the IRA or the ETA. regards ALHOLK It is not a religious uprising in Uganda, christianity has nothing to do with it, it's a tribal conflict with the southerners, also christian. It was not me who said that all terrorists are muslim. But it remains a fact that this is the only religion whose holy book instructs the faithfull to kill those who do not believe, and not to mix with them. I would have thought this has some bearing on the problems we see all over the world at the moment with this particular group as extremists use their scripture to justify their actions, wheras other groups belonging to other religions, do not appear to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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