Aircraft Terror Plot

[Mekong]

The statement "The Majority of Muslims are Rsdicals" is untrue but "The Majority of Radicals are Muslim" does hold up under scrutiny.

 

Islam itself as a way of life has to put its own house in order or the whole of Islam will become alienated and ostracized from society.

 

It is the Islamic teachings that brainwash these young impressional radicals into "Jihad" and the "Vesteral Virgins", and that is more than likely to have eminated from their local mosque than high school.

 

Islam itself is at fault, I have many muslim friends so don't even try to label me as a religious bigot, if the only way we can make Islam sit up and take notice is via various forms of embargoes and maybe even religious appartheid, so be it.

 

 

[MaiLuk]

I suspect the airlines would object strenuously to banning any large group from flying. That would cut into their already thin profit margin.

 

Airlines in the USA leave it to the the screeners to ferret out the bombs. The screeners are all fed gov employees. Paid 100% by the taxpayer.

 

So anyone who wants a ticket gets one and if a bomb gets aboard the airlines say "don't blame us."

 

Unless you are a member of that "no fly" list. Wonder how you get on it?

[MaiLuk]

>>It is the Islamic teachings that brainwash these young impressional radicals into "Jihad" and the "Vesteral Virgins", and that is more than likely to have eminated from their local mosque than high school<<

 

No! Its not Islam. Its the jews. All their fault. If muslims blew up the 10 airliners, we would not blame the perps. We have to look at the "root" cause, i.e. the jews.

[MaiLuk]

There is a rumor making the rounds that the brits wanted to wait another week or two but the US wanted these guys busted asap. This is understandable because if one of these "bombs" slipped through then Bush's claim to be tough on terror would be history. So the brits rolled up the operation (assuming it was an operation) early.

 

Problem now is what evidence will the brits have? Did these guys have tickets bought for ten airliners on the same day? And what chemicals did they all have in their possession? Some normal household chemicals that everyone has lying around the house?

 

I agree with the poster above (forget who) who said the intel on this "terrorist cell" came from pakistan which might call the whole thing into question.

 

Unless they get some solid confessions from these guys, this case will be a defense lawyers wet dream. I assume al quaida tells their lunatic heroes to say nothing except "want barrister".

 

 

Better send them to guantanamo. After a week they will sing the star spangled banner if you want

 

 

[asiafun]

Not many people in the world public are going to put much stock in any "confession" that comes out of GITMO.

[pasathai1]

I guess by now you know of the three muslims who were arrested in the US on suspicion of casing a bridge for a terrorist attack just because they bought 1,000 cell phones from a Wal-Mart?

 

 

Their story about reselling the phones could be ok, just check ebay for trackfone items, when the phone kits are on sale for appx $20 at walmart, selling the phones and time cards seperate makes a few bux, multiply this by 1000 phones ( btw, why is always an even number when law enforcment seizes stuff?)

by 30% profit margin, and it beats bank interest, stock market, and so on.

 

not saying they were not up to something, but you gotta wonder if anyone in the news media ( not even mentioning the fbi) bothered to do a little research on the subject

[Fidel]

Although this guy is probably just some pundit, what he says is correct. There seems to be minimal evidence that these people were involved in a plot.

 

Now, if these people have been under surveillance for a year and hadn't even bought plane tickets.. why not wait until you have something on them???

 

I think I know the answer...

 

 

"None of the alleged terrorists had made a bomb. None had bought a plane ticket. Many did not even have passports, which given the efficiency of the UK Passport Agency would mean they couldn't be a plane bomber for quite some time.

 

In the absence of bombs and airline tickets, and in many cases passports, it could be pretty difficult to convince a jury beyond reasonable doubt that individuals intended to go through with suicide bombings, whatever rash stuff they may have bragged in internet chat rooms.

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http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=MUR20060814&articleId=2962

[Fidel]

Actually, just found out that he's not just some pundit:

 

"Mr. Craig Murray is the former British Ambassador to Uzbekistan. He was dismissed from his job after he exposed the fact that there were no actual Islamic terrorists in Uzbekistan. His investigations showed that the alleged terrorists were merely innocent local Muslim people who were being systematically tortured into signing false confessions. These confessions were then gleefully received by the US and the UK despite the fact they knew them to be false. For these and

other favours from the Uzbek dictatorship the US paid a lot of money and supported this tyrannical regime.

 

As British Ambassador to Uzbekistan, Craig Murray obtained from a relative photographs of the corpse of an Uzbek person who died under interrogation in prison in Uzbekistan. He sent the pictures to a forensic specialist on the UK who expressed the view that in his professional opinion the pictures clearly show that the person had died under torture (boiled alive)."

 

 

[Old Hippie]

Interesting read, and not by a kook. I would point out though, if these guys in UK were part of a terrorist cell, they could probably get passports and plane tickets fairly quickly.

 

As had been noted though, this plot was nothing new. A similar plot came to light in 94(?) out of the P.I. I believe, yet no hype and no added security measures. Of course a different regime was in pwer than, with a different agenda.

[kamui]

As had been noted though, this plot was nothing new. A similar plot came to light in 94(?) out of the P.I. I believe, yet no hype and no added security measures. Of course a different regime was in pwer than, with a different agenda.

 

The Register has a very interesting story about the use of liquids for to blow up an airplane. Their conclusion is, that it is highly unlikely that binary liquid explosives can be used for a terrorist attack on a plane for several reasons.