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[Old Hippie]

the japanese are not stupid and wont an on going source, they will not hunt to oblivion.

 

 

BEEEEP Wrong! These, and the Chinese are some of the worse people on earth in terms of conservation. Look at what they did to Abalone, and sharks all for the fins for soup...who cares if dolphins die or whales die, or the ocean's/world's eco system gets fucked up as long as they have what they want now! Trust me, these people have no sense of conservation what so ever.

 

ALl people are fucked up to some extent, but when it comes to resources, with these people, it is "the less the better. I have the money and power to have it, you don't" Example, say their was a rare/endangered fish, we'll call it the shit fish. Now if there was 1 breedable pair left on earth, and say they could rebreed to a decent extent if left alone...do you honestly think they'd be allowed to live? Hell fuckin no! People would pay dear money to brag "I ate the last shit fish on earth..."

 

Trust me, I see what these people did with Abalone, the rarer, the more they want it, and could care less if there is any left next week.

[The_Munchmaster]

....i've seen the clips of whale hunting and its abhorent but a slaughter house is no mardi gras.

To compare the slow death of a whale (I'm guessing, but perhaps an hour or so struggling in the sea with a harpoon embedded in its body and who knows how long it spends on the ship before it actually dies) with the almost instantaneous death of a sheep or cow in a slaughter house is naive to say the least.

[Coss]

I'd be interested to know when the concept of quick humane slaughter became embedded in our culture, I'm not sure that it isn't recent..

 

Anyone?

 

Cheers

 

Coss

[Guest lazyphil]

well before euro filth (not chinese!) set foot on the majestic american plains they were covered with buffalos ...

[Flashermac]

the japanese are not stupid and wont an on going source' date=' they will not hunt to oblivion.[/quote']

 

 

BEEEEP Wrong! These, and the Chinese are some of the worse people on earth in terms of conservation. Look at what they did to Abalone, and sharks all for the fins for soup...who cares if dolphins die or whales die, or the ocean's/world's eco system gets fucked up as long as they have what they want now! Trust me, these people have no sense of conservation what so ever.

 

ALl people are fucked up to some extent, but when it comes to resources, with these people, it is "the less the better. I have the money and power to have it, you don't" Example, say their was a rare/endangered fish, we'll call it the shit fish. Now if there was 1 breedable pair left on earth, and say they could rebreed to a decent extent if left alone...do you honestly think they'd be allowed to live? Hell fuckin no! People would pay dear money to brag "I ate the last shit fish on earth..."

 

Trust me, I see what these people did with Abalone, the rarer, the more they want it, and could care less if there is any left next week.

 

 

When I first came to Thailand, there were still some small herds of rhinos left in the Thai national parks. They got done in (illegally), since the genius Chinese think rhino horn gives them a woody ... as to a lesser extent does rhino flesh, skin and blood. There are also far fewer tigers, since male tiger's genitals are supposed to give the Chinese a woody too. Welcome to the Dark Ages.

 

 

[Guest lazyphil]

we are talking about japanese and norweigan whalers. they harvest the sea just as we do, sentiment is getting in the way here. its fashionable to swim with dolphins and whale watch. nobody goes swimming with cod or haddock. no kudos.

[bust]

"Japanese children as young as ten are watching whales being slaughtered to teach them the "cultural importance" of Japan's controversial commercial whaling industry."

 

 

By Julian Ryall in Tokyo

Published: 5:58PM BST

A fisherman slaughters a bottlenose whale: Japanese 10-year-olds taken on school trips to whale slaughter

 

 

 

Japanese schoolchildren watch as a fisherman slaughters a whale

 

As the whaling season gets under way, schoolchildren in Wada, 50 miles southeast of Tokyo, have been on field trips to see the first Baird's beaked whales of the year winched up the concrete slipway and carved up with razor-sharp flensing knives.

 

Smartly dressed and in bright yellow caps, the children took notes and sketched parts of the 36 foot whale as it was dismembered.

 

From their small boats, local fishermen will harpoon up to 26 of the whales during the three-month season. Wada can trace its whaling history back to 1612, when the 10-tonne whales were harpooned by hand. It is now one of just four communities permitted to conduct coastal whaling.

 

Much of the blubber is carved into bricks that are sold to local people, most of whom have eaten whale all their lives, and the remainder is packaged and sold to supermarkets.

 

Japan defies the International Whaling Commission's 1986 ban on commercial whaling by claiming that its catches are "research whaling", adding that the by-product of scientific research is not wasted.

 

A Japanese delegation is currently in Santiago, the Chilean capital, where the IWC is meeting, repeating the government line that the populations of minke, sperm and fin whales have recovered sufficiently since whaling was banned that commercial hunts should again be permitted.

 

Early discussions were described as peaceful and constructive, but Wednesday's session was marked by renewed accusations and finger-pointing involving Japan and Australia, one of the most vocal opponents of Tokyo's plans.

 

Peter Garrett, the Australian environment minister, said there was absolutely no need to kill whales for scientific purposes. "In Australia's view the programmes are in reality commercial whaling operations prohibited by the moratorium," Mr Garrett said. "It is no longer sufficient for us merely to oppose whaling under scientific permit. It's time for it to stop."

 

Joji Morishita, of the Japanese delegation, responded by claiming scientific whaling was "legitimate, necessary and delivers comprehensive data crucial to Japan's research".

 

He added that countries that oppose the research should "open their eyes".

 

Shigeko Misaki, a former spokeswoman for the Japan Whaling Association, said it was important that a new generation of Japanese was learning the nation's traditions.

 

"The anti-whaling campaign has gone too far," she said. "It has almost become a religion, that whales are the only symbol of the marine eco-system. People who believe this religion think all Japanese people are evil because we kill whales.

 

"Food security is a serious problem for Japan, particularly with rising fuel prices around the world, and the government and Japanese people should stand up and say that whale meat is a good food resource that should be used to provide protein," she said.

 

What I would like to know is what scientific research are they referring to? Joji Morishita seems to contradict that argument here.

[cavanami]

I was always told, by Japanese in Japan, that they waste zero from a whale, they use 100% of it.

So this is a good point.

The bad point(s)...

[bust]

The official reason that Japan gives for whale hunting is "scientific research". They say the only way to determine the whale's age is to kill it. The purpose of the "research" is to prove that whale populations have improved enough to allow commercial whaling which was banned by the International Whaling Commission in 1986.

[khunsanuk]

Hi,

 

"What I would like to know is what scientific research are they referring to?"

 

So what kind of research is so vital that it requires the slaughter of hundreds of whales each year? Cancer research? AIDS research?

 

Sanuk!