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Saw another poll today that showed that 25% of Demoncraps strongly agree that another member of their party should run against Obama.

 

His approval rating will tumble even more and he will be a one-termer. This is due to several factors:

 

1. His charisma allowed him to paint a giant mural across the country (indeed, the world) as The One. He was going to change so many things and solve all of the countries alleged deficiencies. The gullible believed that he could and that he would. Perhaps, The One even believed all the crap he delivered during his campaign.

 

2. Remember some of those changes? No more earmarks, for example. Hasn't happened yet, but probably will with the Republicans and Tea Party pushing to end them. No more special interests running the show? 55555555555 His administration is packed with lobbyists/those with ties to firms doing biz with the government.

 

3. As a Commander-in-Chief, he was going to end "don't ask; don't tell". Odds are that this will not happen in the next two (and final) years of his presidency. Thus, he will disappoint some of the gay/lesbian voter base that supported him during his run for office.

 

4. His one promise that he kept was instituting a change in the nation's health care. And he fucked that up (not just according to HH, but according to most polled). He was going to bring the parties together; he has not. In fact, he has presided over an explaning polarization of the politics as usual and bickering between the parties...and much of it was due to his style of leadership and a failure on his part.

 

5. He is on the wrong side of major issues for significant numbers of taxpayers/citizens: immigration, taxes, healthcare, role of the federal government.

 

6. He has encouraged continued spending of money the government doesn't have and the taxpayers and their children/grandchildren are on the hook for it.

 

7. Foreign relations? He has done absolutely nothing...NADA...to improve the standing/international leadership position of the country which was a "hope" of many who voted for him. (His only achievement was "winning" a Nobel prize for "peace": a joke of a recognition if there ever was one. Right up there with a "Miss Congeniality" title.)

 

The guy would be an absolute disaster for the country if elected for 8 years. For those who don't realize it yet, he has no clothes...he's in way over his head.

 

I realize that Michelle will no longer be proud to be an American after Obama is defeated in 2 more years. Tough titty said the kitty, lady. He got people's hopes up and failed them. Never mind that they shouldn't have believed him in the first place. Nevermind that the choice wasn't particularly enticing. Michelle, your husband, had he'd studied history, would have known that "you can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time; but you can't fool all of the people all of the time."

 

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Ah, I haven't listed to a total of five minutes of Rush in five years. jing jing

 

The liberal media supplies me with all I need to know about this fuckwit.

 

Besides, I'm just having a go with the libs here who enjoyed so much bashing GWB. It's fun throwing pies back in their faces. 5555555

 

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Yeah, but GWB, your hero after Regan really fucked this country up, Obama inherited the mess. Maybe you will be happier when the tea baggers get in, and take away all social services and government programs. You know, like medicare, Social(ist) security, your pension, etc...

 

Happy Thanksgiving anyway...while we are still allowed to have it...

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I'll add to this thread. Two 'political' women in the news criticized.

 

I will say this. I wasn't a fan of Palin and if anything made me turn from apathy to disdain for the McCain campaign it was her selection. It wasn't just the lack of expeerience. I just didn't see any intellectual capacity for the job. Obama lacked experience that we normally view as a prerequisite for the high office however, it was obvious the guy was sharp as a tack.

 

As far as the statement below, everyone misspeaks. We all do. I never held that against Bush. Others used it as evidence he wasn't smart. Not me. I thought the not being able to name the head of some small former soviet republic was very unfair and the same question should have been put to Gore to make it fair. I doubted Gore or Clinton, as smart as he is, knew who he was. There are at least a hundred or so heads of state and I would doubt that even a sitting president could get past 50 or 60...at best.

 

That said, I just think Palin has no ideas and is repeating what her handlers say. Her in any kind of presidential capacity would be way over her head.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/sarah-palin-stumbles-with-north-korea-gaffe/story-e6frg6so-1225960915549

 

SARAH Palin's foreign policy credentials suffered another hefty blow when she mistakenly insisted that the US must stand by its "North Korean allies".

 

 

If I were her advisors, I would suggest that when things are rough its time to expand not contract. She can be likeable. She should be more public and it would help in getting a lot of voters like women and minorities (lets be honest, this is politics and these two groups love her) out to the polls when election time comes around.

 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20101124/pl_politico/45558

 

In a new book on the presidency, “Revival: The Struggle for Survival Inside the Obama White House,†Richard Wolffe writes that because of the constant pressure of the past 22 months the president's circle of friends and confidants “shrank rather than expanded.â€Â

 

Interviews with the spouses of administration officials and members of Congress as well as Washington social observers suggest that the same thing is true of his wife as well.

 

In many ways, Michelle Obama has emulated the president’s approach, relying on a close-knit group of friends and confidants from Chicago to help shape her agenda and find her way in a community that she has been wary of joining.

 

“There has been no attempt to reach out to people they don’t see as their people,†said the wife of a senior administration official, who doesn’t have Chicago ties. “They don’t reach out even to people in the administration who aren’t from their inner circle.â€Â

 

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Yeah, but GWB, your hero after Regan really fucked this country up, Obama inherited the mess. Maybe you will be happier when the tea baggers get in, and take away all social services and government programs. You know, like medicare, Social(ist) security, your pension, etc...

 

Happy Thanksgiving anyway...while we are still allowed to have it...

 

Obama inherited this mess. Obama inherited this mess. Obama inherited this mess. And hardly anybody believed he could fuck things up even more. But that's what libs can do. Don't underestimate them. But with us both residents of CA, it's really hard not to believe it.

 

I'm not gonna get sidetracked into Reagan and GWB (better to re-invigorate dozens of previous threads). Obama knew the score before he set his sites on the Presidency YEARS ago. He knew darn well what he was campaigning for...destroying what America had taken 200 years to achieve WITHOUT his socialist/progressive/commie approach to ruling the country. This thread is about the elections, lest we forget. :content: And the electorate, earlier this month and even moreso according to more recent polls) are rejecting the "change" Obama had in store for them. (BTW, LBJ and his "Great Society" bullshit really got the ball rolling to where we are today.)

 

Happy Thanksgiving to you dude. I'll buy ya a Happy Meal (with a toy) and smuggle it to you next time we meet up. :content:

 

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How has Obama fucked it even worse? or is it just the inevitable playing out, before he makes it all better?

 

 

Thanks! for the happy meal, buy it now before the state totally bans them! See the South Park episode about Medical Marijuana! We can make a fortune smuggling happy meals and KFC into California!

 

 

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The Real First Thanksgiving

 

by Dick Cheatham

 

 

 

No, I’m not talking about the Pilgrims who, as stated in their own Mayflower Compact, sailed to the "Northerne parts of Virginia" in 1620. (There was no Massachusetts colony yet.) That well-known Pilgrim "thanksgiving" came years after one I’m talking about.

 

I refer to a thanksgiving celebrated further south in Virginia on the north bank of the James River in early December 1619. The charter for the new Berkeley Plantation commanded that the day of the safe arrival of the settlers "...shall be yearly and perpetually kept holy as a day of thanksgiving..."

 

We tend to be fascinated by "firsts" and "biggests," etc. No doubt, there’ve been many "thanksgivings" in many cultures for many reasons. The one at Berkeley was certainly not the first. Those who arrived in Virginia with Captain John Smith in 1607 had given thanks for their safe arrival. However, the settlers at Berkeley were ordered to make their thanksgiving perpetual.

 

They had a great deal for which to give thanks. Certainly high on the list was safe arrival in Virginia. They were also lucky to have arrived in a colony in which a miniature Parliament called the General Assembly had just been established the previous summer. This was literally the introduction of representative government into European America. The primitive yet strong and growing seeds of individual liberty and rights for the "common man" which came from the Magna Carta and from English Common Law were now permanently established in Virginia soil.

 

Another thing for which those settlers could be thankful was that the deadly "common storehouse" (socialist) system had lost favor and was rapidly being replaced by private ownership of land for the common man. Pocahontas’ husband John Rolfe wrote in 1616 of "every man sitting under his fig tree in safety, gathering and reaping the fruits of their labors with much joy and comfort." Rolfe, who served in that first General Assembly in 1619, was the great hero who saved the fledgling democracy through his entrepreneurial efforts with tobacco.

 

Rolfe’s friend Ralph Hamor described the classic failure of socialism in Virginia. "For formerly, when our people were fed out of the common store and labored jointly in the manuring of the ground and planting corn, glad was the man that could slip from his labor. Nay, the most honest of them in a general business would not take so much faithful and true pains in a week as now he will do in a day."

 

November 28, 2003

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig4/cheatham1.html

 

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