Mekong Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 6 hours ago, bust said: Yep.....Rink posted in my comment before đ I missed that but define worth repeating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo_bill Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 Let us just think Emperor Xi from China blows a fuse and wishes to offer Emperor Orange a kick in the ass which makes him flying through the air for a considerable distance. Emperor Xi would simply pick up his telephone and order the Chinese Central bank to put US government bonds on the market in what we might call trainloads. He would hurt himself as the value of the bonds would implode but the US would be simultaneously fucked. Because the US finance all their various galactic deficits by bonds which the world is buying because the worls trusts the US to pay. So far. US bonds are in USD, so no currency instability and stable interests. Couple of days ago the BRICS countries were considering to replace the USD by something of their own design and Donald immediately started yelling at them. See above. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Hippie Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 7 hours ago, buffalo_bill said: Let us just think Emperor Xi from China blows a fuse and wishes to offer Emperor Orange a kick in the ass which makes him flying through the air for a considerable distance. Emperor Xi would simply pick up his telephone and order the Chinese Central bank to put US government bonds on the market in what we might call trainloads. He would hurt himself as the value of the bonds would implode but the US would be simultaneously fucked. Because the US finance all their various galactic deficits by bonds which the world is buying because the worls trusts the US to pay. So far. US bonds are in USD, so no currency instability and stable interests. Couple of days ago the BRICS countries were considering to replace the USD by something of their own design and Donald immediately started yelling at them. See above. The USA was fucked when Nixon opened the flood gates to Chinese goods. In doing so, a monster was createdâŚone that may ultimately gobble another monster⌠Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo_bill Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 9 minutes ago, Old Hippie said: The USA was fucked when Nixon opened the flood gates to Chinese goods. In doing so, a monster was createdâŚone that may ultimately gobble another monster⌠Sir, people do not buy Chinese because they love the Chinamen. My own business is all Chinese because prices are a beauty and quality good if you are careful what you buy. The problem with the US in that market is that the US does not offer too many goods that are attractive to other countries. The trade balance Germany/China 2023 was 59 billion Euros ( US-billions) in favor Chinaman. Nobody worried because with other countries it looks entirely different ( USA / Germany 69 billion in favor Germany, Orange-man him angry too mut ) If you now try to stop this by tariffs it is like swallowing headache pills against brain cancer, the pain goes away but not the problem. Gentlen, I am in the middle of a bottle of ( imported ) Red and declare unability to continue with thoughts that make sense. Assuming I managed to do so before. Holy Lord, times are confusing all of a sudden. Prost! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo_bill Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 Just seen on the TV news Orangeman had a phonecall from the Mexican Chief no idea what her name is. All is fine again because Mexican Chief sends 10.000 warriers to the border to protect the United States from I think drugs. And other evil. In exchange Orangeman will cancel 25% tariffs which were supposed to establish a Golden Century for the US. What about the Golden Century now, Old Hippie you should know or Mekong come up with a detailed statistic saying something enlightening. Back to imported Red. Why do these bastards not use real cork any more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Hippie Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 1 hour ago, buffalo_bill said: Just seen on the TV news Orangeman had a phonecall from the Mexican Chief no idea what her name is. All is fine again because Mexican Chief sends 10.000 warriers to the border to protect the United States from I think drugs. And other evil. In exchange Orangeman will cancel 25% tariffs which were supposed to establish a Golden Century for the US. What about the Golden Century now, Old Hippie you should know or Mekong come up with a detailed statistic saying something enlightening. Back to imported Red. Why do these bastards not use real cork any more? I believe the call went something like this: Her: ââŚlisten to me pendejo, Iâm a JEW, I know moneyâŚprobably better than you as YOU filed bankruptcy how many times? I NEVER filedâŚso listen up PUTO, these tarries are going to mean higher food prices, your people are bitching already! How much more can they take if they canât take it now..? So NO tarries, I will send troops to help control the illegal flow of people and drugs, drugs that YOUR PEOPLE WANT, maybe try doing something about that? Anyway, weâll help stop the flow of drugs and people and you, quietly, will pay us for that, ok Pluto..?â rump: ââŚah okâŚBTW, ever Urinate on a rich man..?â  I have it on good authority that was the call. As for âThe Golden CenturyâŚâ Ah Maybe not, I think our run is coming to an end fast⌠I blame Richard Nixon for ârecognizing Chinaâ and opening what would become the flood gate that ruined American manufacturing. Regan started the union busting that lead to lower pay and benifits, changed pension laws to allow companies to basically NOT pay what was earned (happened to me you may recall) and generally fueled unprecedented greed which grew under Bush2, then rump and well the democrats did nothing to stop it and also got rich. We are now a nation run by Oligarchs, no different than Russia maybe a few more basic rights, for now but thatâs about it.    Post WW2, the USA saw its infrastructure, which remained intact, boom, everyone made a great living and the sky was the limit! My âparentsâ generation saw an economic boom like never before and thought it would never endâŚCEOâs (there really was no such thing) were rich, but not the insane gap you see today while workers suffer. So what happened? Well, no one watched the storeâŚthey let government slowly turn up the heat, slowly chip away and the âgreatest generationâ took the attitude of âWe worked for it!  We got ours, go get yours if you donât you are lazy!â That bunch had it all practically handed to them, and didnât give a shit about the futureâŚmention recycling or the environment to my deceased adopted father and be ready to hear a long dissertation on how it is related to communism, homosexuality and a plan for global dominationâŚâ They all had theirâs and ââŚthatâs good enough, donât make wavesâŚâ and knew their place. Drugs in the USAâŚJ. Edgar Hoover, COINTEL PRO and a host of other conspiracies to kill off blacks, there is your answer. We never had a drug problem in the USA until one of the Kennedy kids and a few other prominent kids got caught and or ODâd. Regan saw âthe war on drugsâ as a diversion from is destructive path and ran with it. More enforcement meant higher prices, higher prices meant more people wanted to get into the gameâŚfine and dandy when it was in the black ghettos, but now that rich white kids are hooked, itâs a problem. Pretty drug offenses mean more people in âprisons for profitâ and it goes on and onâŚIâd rant more but I have to go to work and âslave for the manâŚâ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekong Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 Bashing Mexico and Canada for the Fentanyl problem but who caused it in the first place? Corporate America. Doctors dishing out opioids such as Hydrocodone (Vicodin, Norco) and Oxycodone (OxyContin, Percocet) like candy to all and sundry. Doctors were happy, getting their backhanders off drug companies, investors were happy as share prices in drug companies were skyrocketing, but it was creating an opioid time bomb. Once the problem was recognised the Doctors stooped prescribing the opioids and basically forced the consumers to go cold turkey. Black market Vicodin pills are $5.00 each compared to Fentanyl at 50 cents, even with prescription Vicodin is $142 per 100 or $1.42 a pop so obviously an addict is going to go for the cheapest option. Rather than flooding the USA with illicit drugs as claimed, foreign countries are helping the USA keep the cost of addiction down, rather than imposing tariffs on other countries wouldnât the USA be better off insetting up proper detox clinics for the problem which it has caused itself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Old Hippie Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 12 hours ago, buffalo_bill said: Sir, people do not buy Chinese because they love the Chinamen. My own business is all Chinese because prices are a beauty and quality good if you are careful what you buy. The problem with the US in that market is that the US does not offer too many goods that are attractive to other countries. The trade balance Germany/China 2023 was 59 billion Euros ( US-billions) in favor Chinaman. Nobody worried because with other countries it looks entirely different ( USA / Germany 69 billion in favor Germany, Orange-man him angry too mut ) If you now try to stop this by tariffs it is like swallowing headache pills against brain cancer, the pain goes away but not the problem. Gentlen, I am in the middle of a bottle of ( imported ) Red and declare unability to continue with thoughts that make sense. Assuming I managed to do so before. Holy Lord, times are confusing all of a sudden. Prost! Sir, pre Nixon and maybe even into the late 70âs, The USA did actually make stuff here, shitty cars being one of them. Senile Ronnie loved the idea of âcompetitionâ of the finest and ran with it all. More cheap stuff coming in, in some cases, decent quality. You are correct, Americans did not buy it because they/we loved the Chinamanâ but because it was cheap. In some cases insanely cheap, didnât matter if it was good quality or bad quality, cheap was good enough in many cases.  As for little xi wanting to cause a big problem for the USA of A, he could do so, against his best interests, which I doubt he or any other current leader is dumb enough to doâŚwell maybe rump is dumb enough..? However, at that point, being game over perhaps, the USA could simply really screw everyone and just print enough money to just pay off the debt, the money would essentially be worthless to any and all, but it would clear the tab and basically really fuck every one, including/especially the USA, but we might have the last laugh. Rumour abound about how rich and or powerful China really isâŚas no one really seems to know, Iâd advise we plan accordingly.    Interesting enough, Bill Maher made a very good comment the other night on his show. He basically said the recent Chinese AI event which upset the stock market, was a âSputnik moment.â It was basically one of those moments that showed Americans ââŚwe arenât first, we arenât number 1 at this and weâd better step up our game or suffer as a resultâŚâ I tend to agreeâŚ. Enjoy your wine, aspirin before drinking, during and after, can help with avoiding hangovers⌠Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Hippie Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 5 hours ago, Mekong said: Bashing Mexico and Canada for the Fentanyl problem but who caused it in the first place? Corporate America. Doctors dishing out opioids such as Hydrocodone (Vicodin, Norco) and Oxycodone (OxyContin, Percocet) like candy to all and sundry. Doctors were happy, getting their backhanders off drug companies, investors were happy as share prices in drug companies were skyrocketing, but it was creating an opioid time bomb. Once the problem was recognised the Doctors stooped prescribing the opioids and basically forced the consumers to go cold turkey. Black market Vicodin pills are $5.00 each compared to Fentanyl at 50 cents, even with prescription Vicodin is $142 per 100 or $1.42 a pop so obviously an addict is going to go for the cheapest option. Rather than flooding the USA with illicit drugs as claimed, foreign countries are helping the USA keep the cost of addiction down, rather than imposing tariffs on other countries wouldnât the USA be better off insetting up proper detox clinics for the problem which it has caused itself Americans love drugs, period. Weed and acid in the 60âs, cocaine in the 70âs and 80âs, alcohol through out or the hard core crack or heroin or meth addict, we love getting fucked up. The problem is our almost insatiable love of drug consumption of one sort or another. Blaming Canada? Ok, that makes no sense, but then it came from the mouth of the rump, blaming Mexico might seem to make more sense until you really look at the bigger picture, that being, they wouldnât be selling it if there wasnât a market for it.  Opiod Addiction makes no real sense to me, I have taken them over the years for severe pain, the last time being for a knee replacementâŚI hate them, they do not make me feel âhighâ rather they give me a head ache, constipate me, cause nausea and while they may help curb the pain a bit, they donât really stop it and the trade off just isnât worth it. I got through a knee replacement with out them after the 3rd day.  Around here, Vicodin supposedly sells a lot higher than $5 depending on the dosage and fentanyl, pure fentanyl is pretty much lethal. The current trend is to take heroin or coke and cut it with fentanyl for a more super high, of course this stuff is maybe not mixed very well and thus the number of fatal cases here is always on the rise. I have witness 3  (1 fatal) and now carry Narcan bursts (nasal spray) in my car. No idea what the answer is, the war on drugs was a big failure, âhealth educationâ in schools doesnât seem to work, better medical use of pain meds doesnât seem to help etcâŚSo what is a nation to do..?    Not to defend the rump, but the southern border has been out of control for years, even on his first watch. People who are fat as fuck show up at the border saying they walked from Honduras, El Salvador Southern Mexico for 6 months with no food or water etcâŚsome try through proper channels to get in, others arrive in âcaravansâ paid for by who knows? And bum rush the border, once over, some will report and seek assylum, others will not. So will find âunder the table employmentâ and live decent lives in hiding, others will turn to crime either as an alternative or it was their first intention. Others will get stolen IDs, Social security numbers etc and commit ID fraud/theft and get jobs, pay taxes, file and live as legitimate peopleâŚwho knows? Others will arrive on airplanes from China, Europe etc, and either pay someone to marry them (as a certain former board member bragged about doing), or have a baby here etcâŚso the methods are endless I suppose. What astounds me are the people who show up at the southern border from Africa, the Middle East, Russia etcâŚclaiming one reason or another as to why they want a life hereâŚpoverty being one reasonâŚand Iâm like ââŚdude, you had the money to get on a plane and fly to Mexico and pay a cartel to get you to the borderâŚso where did that money come from..?â Will trump stop any of this? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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