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... nor Dumsoda's snide remarks. They seem to have some issues with Faustian which obviously do not stem from this thread.

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...No issues...just took excepion to the wingman crack....and the innuendo attached...

The first post was a joke... sorry if my SOH seems "snide"...

More than once I have exposed myself on this board, but I take as good as I give....and vici verca....

 

But, if push comes to shove I'll stand "back 2 back" with K. mekong....anyday, no problems!!!

 

Cheers DS

 

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Faustian I give you an A+ in Stating the Fucking Obvious.

 

Since you are such a good shrink (in your own mind) why don't you get yourself a decent well paid career over here in Thailand rather than bitch every time someone' date=' in your myopic opinion, happens to mention that they are doing better than you and having the us and them philosophy.

 

As Freud would have summed it up, you suffer from Penis Envy.[/quote']

 

Yes it is obvious, to me and seemingly to you and i avoided anything too technical and complicated or heaven forbid 'deep', plus i generalised on a range of matters and implied and inferred throughout.

 

You are lucky that you are so well informed Mekong. Most people don't know a lot of what i wrote about. Some know bits, but by its very nature the unconscious is not something you can be aware of, unless you are lucky enough to have people around you who give a shit, or you are gifted with insight into your own condition.

 

I'm unsurprised you reacted in such a hostile manner and of course wingman number 2 was right there, all fully paid up members of the old boys club. I'm happy you are so rich and successful, but why do you feel the need to mention it constantly?

 

I hope others, who maybe don't possess the same level of genius as your good self, might find something useful in what I've written.

 

Faustian,

 

You may have misinterpretted what I meant by my posting, if so I am just as guilty of not making myself clear to you in what I posted.

 

This Thread is about "Relationships With Bargirls", and if you wish to read the whole thread you will see that I have made a couple of postings in it which have been commented upon / appreciated by other board members. I do not post here for a slap on the back or try to garnish praise by what I say, but I do appreciate threads like this where I can sit at a computer and type out my thoughts and realise how fortunate I am nowadays to have overcome a situation / relationship which may have affected others in a differant way and to have what some would call happiness nowadays. I don't know what one would call it but to me it is "Cyber-Theraphy".

 

If I can share my experiences with a fellow poster and he realises he is not the first and neither the last to be in kimbo making a life altering decision, or maybe just taking an alternative route to happiness and my experiences help him in his decision process then this thread has helped two people.

 

Meanwhile, all you seem to do is to Pshyco analyise a situation and chip in from the peripheral without actualy having any experience of such a situation. IMHO you have two modes of posting, mode one is playing the Shrink, and mode two is accussing anyone who happens to have a career in Thailand as Snobish and Elitist, hence the "Penis Envy" referance, if you were such a good shrink why are you a Pratanum Tie wearing 55 Baht Beer drinking expat in Thailand now.

 

If you have a problem with me and my comments it is no skin off my nose, maybe you should be asking yourself why do I and other successful expats make you jealous? You are obviously not stupid, I recognise that from what you have posted in the past, in fact I quite enjoy our cerebal exchanges and banter.

 

It appears to me that you have spent a lot of time observing life, situations, relationships etc from the outside and have tried to analise them yet you are not prepered to jump in the pool of life and experience things for yourself, only my personal opinion who the hell am I to analise you. At the end of the day it is an internet forum and we are all free to our own opinions, you disagree with some of mine and I disagree with some of yours, that does not make us bad people it is what makes us characters. Differance of opinion opens up debate which leads on to people recognising / seeing things from another persons perspective, you have your opinion about me and visa versa, we can debate without making personel threats, something we are both wise enough to ever get involved in that. I hold nothing against you personaly, how could I? I have never met you, but we live differant lifestyles. I respect your opinion, please respect my non-personal retorts.

 

 

 

Very Big and Kamui

 

This has been simmering under the surface for over a year now, Faustian and I have had a few disagreements on many Topics in the past and since I opened up previously on this thread, Faustian posted (non direct to me) I spat the dummy. No offence meant to you guys or any other board members, if you could downgrade me from Total Asshole to Asshole I can live with that.

 

 

 

 

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Really appreciate this thread' date=' some very insightful & mature replies. I only wish I had something to offer... For now it's a lot of read & learn for me!

 

Ahui hou :beer: [/quote']

 

You never stop learning on this board :easter::neener:

Never Stop Learning Period

 

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I wonder whether there is a correlation between getting older and tape loops' date=' and the more fucked up u got in ur childhood the more tape loops u got running...or the more unhappy u get in life the more tape loops...Anybody knows of research about this? Not judging the OP's situation, just curious in general.[/quote']

 

The most significant problem is that most people don't really know the degree to which they are damaged. They wander through life encountering problems, seldom learning. Insight into ones own (and others) condition is a rare thing. The very defence mechanisms used to protect and maintain ourselves maybe the same ones that hinder positive change. It is often said and observed that people only really change when they 'hit rock bottom'....although some just go under. Very few make lasting discernible changes on their own.

 

As a shrink, it was one of my more interesting tasks to draw attention to unconscious, often heavily defended behaviours/cognitive processes and drag them kicking and screaming into the conscious arena, thereby facilitating the possibility of working on them. The unconscious processes are the cycles or loops previously referenced. Due to the fact that these cyclical behaviours/processes are unconscious, people are unaware/oblivious to the affect they have on their lives.

 

So, in answering your question, with the previous information borne in mind, if your thinking is distorted, due to traumatic experiences and no one is there to help you realise these errors in judgement, over time the original distortion may become compounded. Further negative experiences may reinforce the distorted thinking. Leaving the 'issues' unaddressed means they keep on informing the individuals present.

 

Many herein will be aware of the BGs moral deterioration over time. I think this illustrates the reinforcement of experience. If you continually equate intimacy with financial gain and using others to get what you want and being used by others, the resulting personality is not going to be nice. A highly 'cold' callous person would be the expected and likely outcome.

 

Add into the mix early negative, traumatic and disturbing experiences at the hands of men and you've got someone angry and disturbed, not dissimilar in functioning to a sociopath. Shrinks like to call this 'cut off'...it means the person is emotionally cold and possibly unreachable, viewing others as a means to an end. Highly manipulative, deviant, uncaring and just plain nasty. A nice 'catch all' term often bandied about is 'personality disordered'. There's lots of different types, but I'll deal with the hypothetical BG for now.

 

Unless you are highly tolerant, insightful, consistent, emotionally stable and mature, able to handle shitloads of shit coming at you and forgive transgressions then I'd say stay the hell away from such a person. Most emotional damage can be healed. It needs someone who really knows what they're getting into to deal with it though. Most aren't 'cut out' for such a task and will inevitably fall victim to it. Time is great healer...sure...but that's if the individual is allowed to or able to heal. If you are the boyfriend of such a lady and you have your own significant unresolved issues, you are fucked.

 

As an aside this is not culturally biased. People really are people. Culture may help or hinder in various ways, but people generally react the same throughout the world. Emotional warmth is a universal human trait, as is what it means to be treated like shit.

 

Anyway, hope that answers something.

 

 

 

As far as i can see Faustian is answering my question, not stating that the OP's situation IS in this category. For some he might have stated the obvious, for some his ravings are interesting. If you attack every body on this side who states the obvious than it there will only BE attacks...this site becomes pretty boring when u read it for a while because of the many repeats...and because of BM's stuck personalities who can only react in one fashion and are not flexible anymore

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I'm unsurprised you reacted in such a hostile manner and of course wingman number 2 was right there, all fully paid up members of the old boys club. I'm happy you are so rich and successful, but why do you feel the need to mention it constantly?

 

 

Does it occur to anyone that Faustian is just jokingly proving his point that ppl are fucked up? It is true that Dumsoda mentions his expenses in 9 out of 10 posts. NOthing against u DS, I like u anyway but what Faustian is saying is that u dont need to state your financial riches all the time to be seen as a full person/boardmember. And when we are told our shortcomings we put up a big defense wall.

 

Faustian's choice of living in Thailand has nothing do with this subject. Even if he made the choice to live cheaply in LoS, what does that mean? Thats a very strange thing on this board the constant fight between the so called 'cheap charlies' with the rich boys. Does it mean when u have more money that u r 'better'? My circle of friends is loaded with extremities, rich ppl and poverty conscious ppl. I dont know who is more cuckoo...

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