teddy Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Is a man who experience war and hated it more of a coward than one who chooses not to join up? A man who chooses not to join up does not have to be a coward. But this case is not about that. A man who chooses to join up' date=' [b']then refuses to go[/b] is absolutely a coward. That is what this case is about. Have to agree with that. My wife was in the 1st Gulf War and was away for 6 months. About 1 year after she was discharged, a rumour was going around that something else was about to go off in the Gulf and she was told that she may be recalled. I remember her being pissed off because of the disruption it would cause but the day after, she had dug out her uniform to make sure it was spick and span ready for the call. She would never have dreamt of refusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogueyam Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Whatever one thinks about the terms of the contract our servicemen agree to, those terms are known to all before agreement is made. The issue of the Individual Ready Reserve has been commented about repeatedly since the Iraq war began. Here's an article covering all the issue that dates back to 2004. It is a typical leftist strategy to re-raise a settled issue like this one over and over, each time acting like it is something new and howling in wounded outrage while ignoring the cold realities that are well known to all who are paying attention. Same old same old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddy Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Whilst it may be correct to label him as a coward for refusing to do what he signed up to do, you're more of a coward for espousing that the likes of him should go and fight, and risk losing their lives, when you haven't got the balls to sign up and do it yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogueyam Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 The article isn't about me, Ted. In fact none of them are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Hippie Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Pure politics. The neo-cons KNOW that if the institute a draft for the Iraq debacle' date=' they'll be lynched. Cheers, SD[/quote'] Hey SD...when did Hollings and Rangel become "neo-cons". From your favorite source, Wiki: "In 2003, legislation to reintroduce general conscription was introduced by Senator Ernest Hollings (Democrat of South Carolina) and Representative Charles B. Rangel (Democrat of New York)..." HH Not so sure it is such a bad idea to have some sort of national service. Military or other wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.. Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Pure politics. The neo-cons KNOW that if the institute a draft for the Iraq debacle' date=' they'll be lynched. Cheers, SD[/quote'] Hey SD...when did Hollings and Rangel become "neo-cons". From your favorite source, Wiki: "In 2003, legislation to reintroduce general conscription was introduced by Senator Ernest Hollings (Democrat of South Carolina) and Representative Charles B. Rangel (Democrat of New York)..." HH Uh, that just proves my point. The Dems introduced it and the GOPers killed it. GOP=Neo-Con nowadays. Cheers, SD -- for the draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh_Hoy Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Uh...I don't think it proves your point. It actually nuked it. In case you're wondering, Hollings and Rangel were the only two Demoncrats to vote on the bill. The rest voted against it or obstained. Admit it, SD. You got body-slammed on that one. HH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCorinthian Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Uh, that just proves my point. The Dems introduced it and the GOPers killed it. Not quite true. It was referred to the AS committee chaired by a dem (Rep. Ike Skelton [D-MO]), and never was acted on. http://www.govtrack.us/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AF16 Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 No honor in fighting in Iraq, illegitimate war at the becking call of a war criminal. Fuck Bush and his wars, and it has nothing to do with bravery. It's about having a moral backbone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkoktraveler Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 During the Vietnam war, if GWB's unit got called up, would he have gone to war? Doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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