Old Hippie Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Yeah I listened to it...but so what? until I see some real changes and get something from my elected officials, I will remain unimpressed by words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckwoww Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Hitler learns about Scott Brown... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4aQCiRjvZY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkoktraveler Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Yeah I listened to it...but so what? until I see some real changes and get something from my elected officials, I will remain unimpressed by words. you are in California and I am Arizona - 2 of the hardest hit States. This means: Don'texpect anything and hope nothing else happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh_Hoy Posted January 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Hitler learns about Scott Brown... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4aQCiRjvZY I recall seeing that movie; forget the name. Excellent movie and I love the "remake". HH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamui Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Hitler learns about Scott Brown... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4aQCiRjvZY I recall seeing that movie; forget the name. Excellent movie and I love the "remake". HH "The Downfall" :content: And finally: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh_Hoy Posted January 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Good ones too. HH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave32 Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 And finally: Heh. I remember seeing it with football subtitles somewhere too. Obama clip did make me smile though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 Its a tough call. I've always considered myself right of center for most of my life. Fiscally conservative' date=' socially moderate although I've changed my view on some things the last several years (gay marriage for example) and would now be deemed socially liberal or left of center. [/quote'] I consider any confiscation of one man's earnings and giving it to somebody else socialistic...and that is being polite. If you left "center-right" and moved to "center-left", you probably departed the majority of the country (from what I've read). That is, it has been repeated by different sources that most people in the U.S. are "center right". (That is where I was placed by the "political compass" that was posted here a few months ago.) The foregoing diatribe probably explains why I personally am adament in opposition to Obama's initiatives (in the main). I'm not against EVERY idea he has floated, but probably 90% of them. And in the 10% of those ideas that I share with him, I don't think he goes far enough. Oh well, get ready to mark your next ballot for Romney and Brown. 55555555555 (Holy Cow, Batman; TWO New Englanders? Maybe not.) HH Left of center with regards to my views on gay marriage primarily. I think that position is actually a libertarian view. Libertarians want the government out of the bedroom. I totally agree about it being wrong to take ones earnings and giving it to someone else. I have always been vehementally opposed to the state of social welfare in this country having seen the ramifications of its failed programs first hand. However, I also have the same animus for taking someone's earnings and giving to the defense contractors and via corporate welfare. Corporate welfare in all its forms is far more extensive than social welfare. I see no difference in providing food stamps and section 8 housing to those that don't need or deserve as I do for giving it to corporations that don't deserve or need it as well...and there are plenty of them. The department of defense has been one of the biggest black holes of money for some time. At least over a trillion dollars over a few decades have been totally accounted for according to the government's own estimation. My problem with republicans is that they don't get as upset over that but are more angry about the far less spent on food stamps. Its hypocracy of the highest order. I want both cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 As I understand it, foreign companies, governments and individuals are still forbidden to contribute to US candidates. No change in that. Technically true but they find numerous ways around it. I recall a former congressman in LA, from my area, Mel Dymally, whom I've met and at the time he was a lobbyist for some of the most corrupt african and latin american countries. He had direct access to people of power for whatever they wanted due to the old boys network of former congresspersons. That's just one way. They have surrogates who they funnel money to who can fund candidates. China is a major contributor in various ways. China is a major buyer of defense components from Raytheon and others. Those firms have a lobbying group that gives directly to candidates. If China says ask for this or that they do it. Its influence by fiat. There are other ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 Anybody listen to the President's speech last night? I thought he made an excellent delivery. I would have been surprised if he didn't. He's a great public speaker. Agree or disagree with what is said, but his oratory skills can't be questioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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