Old Hippie Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 "...I saw one story of a woman who was a 20 year illegal resident and has a son who is currently fighting in Afghanistan and has fought in Iraq. She has other sons, all born here who want to be marines as well..." My guess is her kids are now U.S. citizens, or permanent legal residence, would have to be to hold a security clearance I think(?), and therefore, by some law/policy, she can stay and be petitioned for legal status by her kids...if the story is even true. We will no doubt hear all sorts of extremes to justify letting all 10 million+ stay here, just won't work. If we took a really hard line and even went after ALL the special heart wrenching cases, it might send a message to others. I listened to Obama's speech tonight on this subject, he pretty much said nothing, but hinted at a "sort of amnesty" (not really sure how to describe it) Basically, they need to register, pay taxes and learn English...so where is the deterrent to others? We are thus basically sending the message "if you get here, you can stay..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh_Hoy Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 OH...is it ALL political. Obama desperately needs the Latino vote and will sell the country out to get it. "Fuckstick" is too kind of a term to apply to him. HH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Hippie Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 Yeah, but then there is the Cuban vote which fucks around the Cuba/refugee issues, large a republican thing, much much smaller though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LizardKing Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 Well, Sport, I get to keep the donuts and you owe me some $$$ (I'll happily accept a couple of beers in lieu when I'm over your way in Sept.) FWIW, I've NEVER been for "amnsesty" for illegals. But I like donuts LOL! But booze is good too. It'll be good to catch up again. Been too long. What, a couple of years anyway, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LizardKing Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 We are thus basically sending the message "if you get here, you can stay..." No different than Reagan's "dry feet" policy for Cubans and Haitians that's been in place in Florida... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh_Hoy Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 Well' date=' Sport, I get to keep the donuts and you owe me some $$$ (I'll happily accept a couple of beers in lieu when I'm over your way in Sept.) FWIW, I've NEVER been for "amnsesty" for illegals.[/quote']But I like donuts LOL! But booze is good too. It'll be good to catch up again. Been too long. What, a couple of years anyway, right? Ok...you supply the beer and I'll stop by Dunkin' Donuts or Foodland. (Bring your calulator and we can tally the calories/carbs 555555555) HH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LizardKing Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 OK. But we're both already fatsos, so it really doesn't matter, does it? LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LizardKing Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 OK. But we're both already fatsos, so it really doesn't matter, does it? LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkoktraveler Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 We are thus basically sending the message "if you get here' date=' you can stay..." [/quote']No different than Reagan's "dry feet" policy for Cubans and Haitians that's been in place in Florida... When our ancestors came to the USA, they looked at it that they had made it and had no feelings of possibly being sent back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavanami Posted July 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2010 100+ years ago when the immigrants arrived in the USA, this was a time when there were NO welfare programs and people had to hit the road running! Also, the USA had a very small population, so OK to add more people (needed more people to kill out the native Indians (another discussion)). The immigrants that arrived went to WORK! any job! they LEARNED the English (American?) language, they tried to blend in and be Americans. Different today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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