Flashermac Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Thai students - largely ethnic Chinese in the universities - react a lot that way. If they are caught cheating, the shame seems to be in getting caught - not cheating. Thaksin's kid was caught at Ramkhamhaeng taking a final exam with his pocket stuff with crib notes. he should have automatically failed all his cclasses that term and been banned from Ram for 2 years. Guess what ... he wasn't. The uni "decided" he had forgotten he had the notes during the final. And no one was the least surpirsed by the decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coss Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 I don't know why they don't just award them the degree after they get the cheque cleared, save a lot of time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 "...The chinese are known for stealing a lot of technology, same with the Japanese before them. Coincidentally both are raised similarily and maybe, just maybe, the reason they had to steal a lot innovation is because they didn't foster the same environment in their own cultures..." One Chinese girl I know very well said there was no shame in their culture to lying cheating or stealing ideas, anything it took to gain an advantage over others, it showed you were ambitious etc...she said the shame was in getting caught and failing at what was expected. In short win at any cost, on something as simple as a piano recital or chess game etc...disgusting, but I see it time and time again, not just with the Chinese however. Western ethics and morality are different than Asian. A promise in the west is seen as binding and even if your situation changes you fulfill it. In many areas of Asia, a promise means, at this moment in time I will do it but if my situation changes for the worse then I won't be obliged. The Koreans and Chinese do this a lot. Less so in Japan. I've heard the middle east is the same. Historically many have known this, Alexander the Great's father said the word of an Asian (and he included the Persians in this) is not worth anything. Western values and the concept of a written contract and how binding it is both legally and personally and tied to your honor is known and practiced at the highest levels to a large extent but not so much with every day people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Hippie Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 SO in short, these people have no honor at all...? Seems the case here from what I have seen. All that seems to matter is that they finish ahead of all the others. Doesn't matter how or how well, as long as they die with more in THEIR pocket then the next guy, they won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Chinese Pianist Plays Propaganda Tune at White House US humiliated in eyes of Chinese by song used to inspire anti-Americanism Lang Lang the pianist says he chose it. Chairman Hu Jintao recognized it as soon as he heard it. Patriotic Chinese Internet users were delighted as soon as they saw the videos online. Early morning TV viewers in China knew it would be played an hour or two beforehand. At the White House State dinner on Jan. 19, about six minutes into his set, Lang Lang began tapping out a famous anti-American propaganda melody from the Korean War: the theme song to the movie “Battle on Shangganling Mountain.†[color:red]The film depicts a group of “People’s Volunteer Army†soldiers who are first hemmed in at Shanganling (or Triangle Hill) and then, when reinforcements arrive, take up their rifles and counterattack the U.S. military “jackals.†[/color] [color:red]The movie and the tune are widely known among Chinese, and the song has been a leading piece of anti-American propaganda by the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) for decades. CCP propaganda has always referred to the Korean War as the “movement to resist America and help [North] Korea.†The message of the propaganda is that the United States is an enemyâ€â€in fighting in the Korean War the United States’ real goal was said to be to invade and conquer China. The victory at Triangle Hill was promoted as a victory over imperialists.[/color] [color:red]The song Lang Lang played describes how beautiful China is and then near the end has this verse, “When friends are here, there is fine wine /But if the jackal comes /What greets it is the hunting rifle.†The “jackal†in the song is the United States.[/color] The name of the song is “My Motherland,†originally titled “Big River.†In an interview broadcast on Phoenix TV, the first thing Lang Lang is quoted as saying is that he chose the piece. [color:red]He then said, “I thought to play ‘My Motherland’ because I think playing the tune at the White House banquet can help us, as Chinese people, feel extremely proud of ourselves and express our feelings through the song. I think it’s especially good. Also, I like the tune in and of itself, every time I hear it I feel extremely moved.â€Â[/color] [color:red]He expressed this idea more frankly in a later blog post, writing: “Playing this song praising China to heads of state from around the world seems to tell them that our China is formidable, that our Chinese people are united; I feel deeply honored and proud.â€Â[/color] Whether Lang Lang’s decision to play “My Motherland†was entirely his own is impossible to confirm. That his choice was known in advance to CCP officials is very likely. Cheng Xiaonong is a former assistant to former CCP General Secretary Zhao Ziyang. He now lives in New Jersey and is a commentator on Chinese politics. Cheng said that “The White House had to report in advance and so the Chinese delegation would have certainly known Lang Lang’s program.†Cheng believes, however, that the Chinese delegation would see no reason to suggest a change in the program. “The program is not against the interests of China. In fact, it is the opposite.†In addition to the Chinese delegation likely knowing of the program in advance, CCP officials connected to Phoenix TV would also have known. ... More ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Chinese Pianist Plays Propaganda Tune at White House US humiliated in eyes of Chinese by song used to inspire anti-Americanism Lang Lang the pianist says he chose it. Chairman Hu Jintao recognized it as soon as he heard it. Patriotic Chinese Internet users were delighted as soon as they saw the videos online. Early morning TV viewers in China knew it would be played an hour or two beforehand. At the White House State dinner on Jan. 19, about six minutes into his set, Lang Lang began tapping out a famous anti-American propaganda melody from the Korean War: the theme song to the movie “Battle on Shangganling Mountain.†[color:red]The film depicts a group of “People’s Volunteer Army†soldiers who are first hemmed in at Shanganling (or Triangle Hill) and then, when reinforcements arrive, take up their rifles and counterattack the U.S. military “jackals.†[/color] [color:red]The movie and the tune are widely known among Chinese, and the song has been a leading piece of anti-American propaganda by the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) for decades. CCP propaganda has always referred to the Korean War as the “movement to resist America and help [North] Korea.†The message of the propaganda is that the United States is an enemyâ€â€in fighting in the Korean War the United States’ real goal was said to be to invade and conquer China. The victory at Triangle Hill was promoted as a victory over imperialists.[/color] [color:red]The song Lang Lang played describes how beautiful China is and then near the end has this verse, “When friends are here, there is fine wine /But if the jackal comes /What greets it is the hunting rifle.†The “jackal†in the song is the United States.[/color] The name of the song is “My Motherland,†originally titled “Big River.†In an interview broadcast on Phoenix TV, the first thing Lang Lang is quoted as saying is that he chose the piece. [color:red]He then said, “I thought to play ‘My Motherland’ because I think playing the tune at the White House banquet can help us, as Chinese people, feel extremely proud of ourselves and express our feelings through the song. I think it’s especially good. Also, I like the tune in and of itself, every time I hear it I feel extremely moved.â€Â[/color] [color:red]He expressed this idea more frankly in a later blog post, writing: “Playing this song praising China to heads of state from around the world seems to tell them that our China is formidable, that our Chinese people are united; I feel deeply honored and proud.â€Â[/color] Whether Lang Lang’s decision to play “My Motherland†was entirely his own is impossible to confirm. That his choice was known in advance to CCP officials is very likely. Cheng Xiaonong is a former assistant to former CCP General Secretary Zhao Ziyang. He now lives in New Jersey and is a commentator on Chinese politics. Cheng said that “The White House had to report in advance and so the Chinese delegation would have certainly known Lang Lang’s program.†Cheng believes, however, that the Chinese delegation would see no reason to suggest a change in the program. “The program is not against the interests of China. In fact, it is the opposite.†In addition to the Chinese delegation likely knowing of the program in advance, CCP officials connected to Phoenix TV would also have known. “My Motherland†having been played at the White House will be seen as a propaganda triumph in China. “In the eyes of all Chinese, this will not be seen as anything other than a big insult to the U.S.,†says Yang Jingduan, a Chinese psychiatrist now living in Philadelphia who had in China been a doctor in the Chinese military. “It’s like insulting you in your face and you don’t know it, it’s humiliating.†Yang sees Lang Lang choosing this tune as an expression of the deeply anti-American propaganda that is constant in China. “This deeply anti-American chauvinism has been fanned by the CCP for years; Lang Lang is expressing the feelings of this generation of angry young people,†Yang said. [color:red]A well-known example of such feelings was seen on Sept. 11, 2001, when Chinese chat rooms were filled with young people celebrating this act of terror as an American defeat.[/color] Excited at this coup, patriotic Chinese have been circulating the clip for the last several days. One netizen wrote “the right place, right time, right song!†... More ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Chinese Embassy Pays Students to Welcome ‘Chairman Hu’ WASHINGTONâ€â€As Hu Jintao and his entourage go over the final steps for the General Secretary’s tightly scripted visit on Tuesday, Chinese Student and Scholar Associations (CSSAs) and other front groups of the Chinese Communist Party in the DC area are being mobilized to give him a big welcome. The welcoming groups are a crucial part of a publicity war courtesy of the Chinese Embassy. Hundreds and possibly thousands of Chinese students will set up shop outside the Blair House and the White House. On site they will wave Chinese and American flags, hold up banners, chant patriotic slogans, and sing patriotic songs. If Hu Jintao’s motorcade passes by, they will cheer. They will work in shifts, be shuttled to and from the site, and be provided with meals and beverages. Some student participants will receive cash payments of up to $80 for the trouble. The message is getting out to students mostly through emails and bulletin boards at universities in the greater DC area and beyond. In the messages the CSSAs offer to foot the bill, but the money doesn’t come from the students. Tightly Controlled ‘Welcome’ The Epoch Times verified, through telephone calls to the George Mason University (GMU) CSSA and the Virginia Tech CSSA, that the Chinese Embassy in DC was behind the arrangements to welcome Hu. A reporter posing as a student called an officer with the GMU CSSA and asked how he could participate in the activities to welcome Hu. In the course of a 10-minute-long discussion, the GMU student provided a picture of how the activities were centrally coordinated by the Chinese Embassy. The Chinese Embassy in Washington is in “tight control†of the entire process, the GMU student told the reporter. First the embassy in Washington notified all CSSAs in the DC area that they needed to mobilize for the welcoming. They were told when and where to arrive, and then sent out emails to encourage members to participate. Some referred to a cash payment, and often included a link to a Google spreadsheet for signing up. Upon arrival at the welcoming site, staff from the Chinese Embassy will count the number of students, verify their identities, and apportion money to CSSA leaders based on the headcount. Another phone call by a different reporter was made to an officer with the Virginia Tech CSSA, who corroborated many of the details. “This is what the Embassy set,†he said about why it was a $50 payment and not some other amount. And the money would not be available right away, because “it takes some time for the embassy to issue money.†The fact of the Embassy’s role in organizing the welcoming groups is further confirmed by a notice sent out by the Virginia Tech CSSA, which was then posted by the CSSA on a Chinese-language electronic bulletin board: “To express a warm welcome for Chairman Hu’s U.S. visit, the Education Section of the Chinese Embassy in the United States specially organizes Chinese university students to go to DC to participate in the welcome ceremony.†While the University of Maryland CSSA advertised a $55 payment, other CSSAs propose cash payments of between $20 and $80, while some say nothing about compensation. All provide free buses, food, and ample red banners. ‘Do Not Talk About It’ [color:red]Chinese officials do not want the welcoming ceremonies for Hu Jintao to appear like top-down directives, according to Boxun, a Chinese website based outside China. An official from the education division from the Chinese Consulate in Chicago told students at a recent meeting, according to Boxun: “If you run into journalists trying to interview you, just say you came spontaneously to do the welcome, and paid for all your own costs.â€Â[/color] Buses used to transport Hu Jintao supporters to a pro-Hu rally near Canada's national parliament in Ottawa. A driver with the Transport St. Leonard bus company said his company had sent 26 buses, each loaded with 72 passengers. (The Epoch Times) The information from Boxun is corroborated by, among other sources, a tape recording of a meeting with students held June of last year in the Chinese Embassy in Ottawa, Canada. At that meeting , Liu Shaohua, the first secretary of the education section told the students, “You do not talk about it outside, do not talk about it to anyone, except to people in this circle.†The only way for The Epoch Times to get honest information from CSSA members was for its reporters to pretend to be part of “this circle.†In order to protect the students who unwittingly provided information, their names are being withheld. In addition to CSSAs, other local organizations have been required to take part. Over a dozen Chinese groups, some of them with public ties to the CCP, have been called on to mobilize in emails obtained by The Epoch Times. One of the messages, sent on Jan. 6 to several CSSAs and various Chinese community organizations, is titled “Meeting Minutes on Welcoming Chairman Hu to the U.S.†The minutes indicate that at least one embassy staffer took part in the meeting. The message sets down specific quotas and instructions. The message states that coordination teams should be formed to organize a joint welcome ceremony; two welcome crowds should be formed, one for the morning, one for the afternoon, with crowds of 300 and 500 respectively; a welcoming ceremony will be held outside where Chairman Hu is staying, with shuttle buses provided for participants; six handheld mikes will be provided, two professional amplifiers, numerous welcome banners, American and Chinese flags, bottled water, and a first-aid kit. Separate notices to other groups asked the group presidents to “pass the message [the meeting minutes from Jan. 6] around, participate actively, encourage more people to attend, quickly submit names, be alert to further notices.†Embassy Control Mr. Chen Yonglin was the first secretary of China's Sydney Consulate, until he defected in 2005. In an interview in 2007 with The Epoch Times, Mr. Chen said, “The control of the overseas Chinese community has been a consistent strategy of the Chinese Communist Party and is the result of painstaking planning and management for dozens of years. It’s not just in Australia. It is done this way in other countries like the U.S. and Canada, too.†Often CSSA bylaws will state that they are under the “leadership†of the local embassies or consulates; or the embassy will be listed as the “sponsoring organizationâ€Â; or there is staff overlap. Chinese consular officials also provide budgets for CSSA chapters. Former CSSA officers have told the Epoch Times of being given regular gifts by consular officials or “activity money,†which can be turned off if the “activities†do not follow consular directives. CSSA officers are also eager to please because of the omnipresent role of “guanxi†(connections) in China. Frequently students serving as officers in CSSAs are promised plum jobs upon returning to China, having served the Party and the motherland well abroad. Keeping Protesters Out of Sight The Chinese students who welcome Hu may do so out of genuine feelings of patriotism and are probably glad to have the chance to pick up an extra $55. But their attendance occurs within a relationship of coercionâ€â€they know that the Embassy is behind the event, and the Embassy has great power over their lives in the United States and China. Whatever the students’ motivations, they are pawns in a battle the Chinese regime is waging to influence Western society. Mr. Chen said that, by acting through Chinese student and community groups, the Chinese regime wishes to influence Western government officials. In the recording made of the meeting at the Ottawa Embassy, Mr. Liu told a crowd of students on Chinese state-scholarships that they must attend the welcome events for Hu Jintao. “This is a battle that relates to defending the reputation of our motherland. The embassy and authorities inside China have a very high requirement,†he said. [color:red]Mr. Liu said the embassy would cover all expenses, which amounted to hundreds of thousands of dollars, based on his comments. But Mr. Liu describes it as “little money,†in light of the “political struggle†the Chinese regime is waging, the goal being to overshadow human-rights advocates who plan to protest during Hu’s visit.[/color] Chinese honour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Old Hippie Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Shows you what the chinks here really think of us doesn't it...after they came here, made a living...fuck them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Next time Hillary is in PEKING, she can arrange a showing of Fu Manchu films for Hu. No reason the Chinks should be the only ones to act childish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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