Dumsoda Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 the_numbers said: ..... Prostitutes get out of the scene and go back to Surin .... You speak of language, terminology and logic and then drop this incredible piece of Bullshit into your post. This would have to be one of the most insulting, broadbrush generalisation, crap statements I have ever read, here or anywhere. Sorry, Surin is close to my heart and is no different to any of the provincial Cities. Have spent considerable time there and know the place reasonably well. Hey Cent....What's it like living in Old Ho City???? Had you said.....Nakorn no-where...or Baan Kia Nok, I probably would have agreed, but to specify one particular City, (be it Surin or anywhere else) is both incorrect and unacceptable......JMHO... A bit like saying anybody that is Located in "Groong Thayp... " is a ^*#%^&*# Just my song salung....but maybe sam salung is more appropriate. Chock dee Dumsoda :cussing: :onfire: :onfire: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJsushi Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 Old Hippie said: The point of my post is/was that I see a new trend developeing here, that is girls who are outside the bar scene, asking for money, outside of any real relationship. It strikes me as odd that I girl I hadn't seen in a year or so, and parted sort of bad with would just call me and ask for money...frankly, I think they view us as chumps who throw our money away, which some guys here do... Dude if they thought you were a broke bahtless bastard then they would not have asked you for shit. It has nothing to do with good girl or bad girl, Thai or farang, middle class or poor. It is simply a chick that needs more cash for whatever reason that thinks you can give it to her. You need to stop looking at these things using terms as chumps, suckers or scams. That is no way to live life and that is no way to view male female interactions that involve finances. You cats grumble about pocket change yet the irony of the situation is that your pocket change allows and MOTIVATES you to fly half way around the world and fuck women half your age or less. You take advantage and exploit the economics of 3rd world pussy. Yet the minute that 3rd world pussy trys to hit u up for a few baht outside of pure P4P, the moaning and bitching ensue. "She is a money grubbing bitch", "it is a scam", "they think farangs are walking ATM's".. . blah. . .blah. . blah. If u don't want to step up to a different level then stay in the commercial prostitution scene where you know what the exact cost will be. I guarantee that if you had a significant income in your home country you would get chicks hitting you up for cash too especially if they view you as being able to afford to give it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Hippie Posted September 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 I agree with part of what you say here, but as I said, this seems to be a new trend. 15 years ago, or longer, I didn't have these types of girls asking me for money outside of Pay for play situations...the asking for money seemed confined to just the bar scene. Now it seems everyone is asking. The "Moonlighting" did go on, but also not as prevelent in the farang scene. I have run this by a few Thai girls, and it seems to vary by age group as to whether or not it is acceptable behavior...the younger ones seemed to think it is ok to ask, they say she (or any girl) is just testing to see if you have money and are generous and willing to help her...the older girls say it is inappropriate, and the girls should be ashamed for asking. The bar girls I mention this to say "these girls same as me..." and I agree with that. I will disagree with you and say that I do think it is a bit of a scam, as some of these girls are likely to be asking others for money as well, and have no real commitment or interest in any of them. And what is the difference between a girl that fucks one guy for 8kbht a month or one that fucks 2-3? besides the arrangement/terms...? All the same to me really... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_numbers Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 dumsoda take your attitude elsewhere man i can't believe you'd sound off about the city like my posting was aimed at Surin and not just a generalization. ANYWAY i changed it for your edification. the post was about BROAD general things and trying to paint a picture of how people are people in the end not GTG's or BG's. What you said is just a petty gripe over a town that you have a personal attachent to. I discussed economics in the provinces, and the area with the largest number of represenatives in parliament based on seats is Isaan. So, I used a damn city as an example of where a girl could go back to.. The fact is the region is most affected because it has the largest failing farming sector in the Nation. Surin was a random isaan city... si saket.. buriram... korat you missed the f***in point. Its irrelevant anyways because it was just an example it could've been bloody Prajuab Khiri Khan in the South the point was about returning home not where home was...christ! Cheers, the_numbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJsushi Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 Old Hippie said:I agree with part of what you say here, but as I said, this seems to be a new trend. 15 years ago, or longer, I didn't have these types of girls asking me for money outside of Pay for play situations...the asking for money seemed confined to just the bar scene. Now it seems everyone is asking. The "Moonlighting" did go on, but also not as prevelent in the farang scene. I would fathom that 15yrs ago Thailand did no have the a large consumption based economy and commercialism as it does today. I am sure product nd lifestyle marketing was not as prevalent. Ten years ago I bet you barely saw a Thai with a mobile phone now they are fashion and status items carried even by slum dwellers. Today Thailand is part of the mainstream global economy so you boys had better get used to ponying up to participate with the ladies. You rich farang had better get used to spending more baht because the days of bringing a girl a T-shirt from home and a stuffed animal are long over. Brush up on your Gucci, Prada and Chanel. Look at it this way if financially well of Thai men are paying up so should farang. Some of the sums they spend for non commercial pussy would make you cheap charlies weep. Thai women in the increasing social climbing middle class are more liberated and are also adopting some of the traits of their Western sisters. The price of pussy is going up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPike Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 Bravo to jjsushi if you consider 20k per month pocket change. While I think it isn't a huge amount of money, it is significant. I have read many admonishments on this board about the foolishness of overpaying. What about the Thai guys paying hundreds of thousands of baht for their minor wife? Fools indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJsushi Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 CaptainPike said:Bravo to jjsushi if you consider 20k per month pocket change. While I think it isn't a huge amount of money, it is significant. . For those people that are used to going out on a regular basis in NYC let me put iit in this perspective. Bottle service @ at an averge NYC lounge, US $300 plus 20% gratuity. Girls are not included in the price. That is merely to insure you get into the club and have a table @ the club. The cost comes down if you get some comps but you have to either be on the 'A" list or know someone who is. Try dinner for 2 @ an average restaurant $150. Do this a few times a month and tell me if sending a chick u care about 20,000 bt per month is a big strain. Freaking peanuts. Not to offend anyone(LOL! That's rich!) but the bottom line is, if u can't afford it then you should not even attempt it. 20,000bt is alot of money if you don't make much money. Why contemplate helping or sponsoring a chick if you can't afford it? Makes me wonder why guys will spend US $2000 for airfare and hotel to travel to LOS will moan and groan about 1000bt ST. I mean seriously why bother to go if you have to count each and every satang? WHO CAME UP WITH THE STUPID LOGIC THAT IF A CHICK ASKS FOR YOUR FINANCIAL HELP THEN SHE IS NO GOOD YET IF SHE NEVER ASKS OR IF SHE TURNS DOWN HELP THEN SHE IS A KEEPER? Sounds like a person that does not have or places an unhealthy value on money believes that nonsense, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPike Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 One more good reason I'm glad I don't live in NYC. Regarding Thai women asking for money: It seems a bit humbling for women to ask for a gift or loan unless she is really desperate. The farang, widely perceived as a fool with cash, may seem like an easy mark. I doubt these gals would so freely ask for cash from Thai males. Perhaps the "high class" minor wife may, only because the Thai dude is willing and likely to pay. And the charm of Surin would be.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattaya127 Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 I think a lot of these girls take the money and laugh at the guy... ----------------------------------------- I dunno, i don't find the girls so much better off that they can laugh at a guy who at least can make a choice of how much, no, yes, and in 99% of cases, has a lot to thank and smile about his own situation, esp. financially, rather than hers. We're undisputed winners, out there. the reason why we can show some vulnerability or foolishness. We can afford it, and the memories usually are worth it, save a few horrible cases. In general I think that a farang who'd think it all comes down to " being taken" or not with thai chicks he mates with has self-worth problems. He is saying more about himself than about the chicks. IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drogon Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 First I have to agree with OH about the "trends" of "good girls" (read non P4P working girls) asking for money. I agree with most of the statements made by jjsushi although they are told in a harsh way I feel they are trues though I can not see the point of comparing prices in the USA or whatever place with prices in Thailand.......... About the "prices" of women's company, for me there are money hungry people everywhere. If we begin to try to tell if thailand is more materialistic than our home countries I am not sure thailand will get the first place. My actual thai girlfriend seems to appreciate me but she made clear that if a problem would ever arise I would have to help her support her family. (she will help too) Being financially secured is in the top 3 of the list for quite a few thai women it seems, but I saw in many sociological surveys made in different countries that it is a COMMON thing among women in many countries........... You have been asked money by a thai lady P4P or not? Think about the same thing back to your home country....maybe it has other forms but don't you have to pay too??? Cheap charly or rich lad, live your life and stop dreaming..... Thailand is not an alien planet so you will find only human beings some "good" and some not "so good". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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