playtheblues Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 "Go back to lurking" Yes, absolutely I will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faustian Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 I'm sorry, maybe i over reacted, but when you have worked with thousands of victims and offenders, you know there's usually no smoke without fire. Many times I've seen the heart breaking sight of a victim of abuse go through the lengthy interviews, be examined by doctors and go to court, only for the case to collapse. It takes extreme courage for many victims to go through that. Reliving the abuse by recounting it. Having to face their abuser, having something to do with them again. It's torture. When the case falls it is like they aren't believed and the sense of powerlessness can be overwhelming. Many victims of abuse self harm or make attempts on their own life. So, sure, retain your scepticism, because sometimes there are those who will lie, but more often than not the allegation will be true. That's just how it is. Citing some examples doesn't change this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristianTroy Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 As it stands now do I believe her.....100% yes.Will I do something about it....possibly. What will I do.....not sure. Probably the easiest way is to look the guy up and meet him, if all is true he will talk to you a) because he knows who you are and from the way she speaks about you, you are a person to respect because you know a lot about her he knows you know and you could easily turn him in if he runs He might admit it in the conversation, trying to play it down and even if he doesn't admit it I am sure you are bright enough to read between the lines and get a "biased" but good picture about the guy. Informing his employer or the authorities will make him loose his job, there are doubts from some board members, in farang land the guy would be arrested already and nobody would doubt the woman with the good job. It narrows down to what you believe and probably that's why you should meet the guy in person to reassure your believes are correct and last but not least if you are really 100% doubt free and believe this girls story as it is and there isn't the slightest chance of a scam you should inform the authorities and his employer because then it would be the right thing to do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soongmak Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 Btw, innocent until proven guilty isn't universal....that's a western concept. So what principles do they adhere to in Thai law? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faustian Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 If you've seen them parading accused offenders on TV before they've gone to trial, you'll know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunsanuk Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 Hi, "So what principles do they adhere to in Thai law?" While officially it is likely 'Innocent until proven guilty', in reality I think it is more likely 'Money talks'. Sanuk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soongmak Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 I always found the 'innocent until proven guilty' principle difficult to combine with the parading of suspects in front of the media to reenact the crime. But that's usually after they've beaten a confession out of the suspect, I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunsanuk Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 Hi, Yes, never understood that parading either. Nor the mentioning of full names, pictures and other details by the press, even of the victims. If one of my family members was killed, the last thing I'd want is pictures of their corps all over the newspapers. Sanuk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Hippie Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 The parading of "suspects" is not unique to Thailand. Get busted here, (USA) and everyone knows who and why...never mind if you are acquitted later...oh, and the identity of your accuser is kept "confidential." Just not right in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soongmak Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 If you've seen them parading accused offenders on TV before they've gone to trial, you'll know. I missed your post, but I guess we're thinking alike here! I do think the underlying principle is still, "innoncent until.." but I guess it gets lost on da police. But like OH says, it's not a whole lot better in some western countries as well. And money talks as well. See Madoff et al. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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