Pom_Jao_Choo Posted January 23, 2002 Report Share Posted January 23, 2002 lol lol 5555555555 quote: Originally posted by Lamock Chokaprret: Posted by CaliGirl: ...And who says american women aren't loving... Have to agree with that. My last three (American) girlfriends loved themselves more than anyone else (including me) possibly could have. . And I don't believe that there arent wonderful, kind, sharing,caring, sexy western women. ITs just that the odds are soooo much slimmer, not to mention some of the miserable bitches you will have to deal with in the mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted January 24, 2002 Report Share Posted January 24, 2002 quote: Originally posted by CaliGirl: What's wrong with American women. What? Are we too challenging or complex? Or maybe some of you men have "issues" within yourselves that need to be worked out. And who says american women aren't loving... bs. Excellent, A bit of sense at last!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 24, 2002 Report Share Posted January 24, 2002 Sorry Luis couldnt work out if you were for or against it and I read your post several times. Your last line regarding Issan and Prauge I think I understood but disagree. There is some incredibly gorgous Praugue ladies not many but some. Definate model hell super model quality. However you get the same range of beauty in Issan girls who are a lot less professional and cold. As well as cheaper!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 24, 2002 Report Share Posted January 24, 2002 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by CaliGirl: What's wrong with American women. What? Are we too challenging or complex? Or maybe some of you men have "issues" within yourselves that need to be worked out. And who says american women aren't loving... bs. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gee shes a feminist How Cute!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted January 25, 2002 Report Share Posted January 25, 2002 I find this “they looked at me and my BG girlfriend with a look of envy / disgust in their eyes” a little strange. Has anyone actually worked out that you would get the same looks if you were walking around with someone who is definitely a prostitute in any country? Walk around London with a girl from behind Kings Cross station and you will get the same looks from people there. The look is not envy, it’s more of a look that says “hey look there is a guy walking round with a hooker”. And before you tell me that you can not tell the difference between a hooker and a “normal” girl…you can! You can dress a BG up in the latest Paris fashions but to the trained eye she is still a BG and always will be, Just ask the people in charge of dishing out the visa’s for the US and the UK, they are experts at seeing through the façade. I have nothing against these girls, but I would not be seen walking round the Emporium with one, nor would I ever consider a serious relationship with one. In the same way that I wouldn’t with a prostitute in any country around the world. And let’s face it, there are so many non-BG girls out there we don’t need to!! Just my humble opinion Roger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spirit_of_town_hall Posted January 25, 2002 Report Share Posted January 25, 2002 Interesting perspective Roger, I live fairly near Kings X and the women there are the absolute scum of the earth, crack addicts who would step over your corpse to get your wallet. We all know bar girls arent like that but I know what you mean. I suppose the nearest comparison is when sometimes in hotel lobbies you see middle east types with women who are obviously escorts. When I see that I feel a mixture of amusement and annoyance that some arab is paying £400 an hour to some white trash whore that I wouldnt touch with a barge pole, high class they will call thenselves, makes me laugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiamIAm Posted January 25, 2002 Report Share Posted January 25, 2002 Roger, You posted: "I find this “they looked at me and my BG girlfriend with a look of envy / disgust in their eyes” a little strange. Has anyone actually worked out that you would get the same looks if you were walking around with someone who is definitely a prostitute in any country?" Of course they would give those "same looks" of envy (other men)/disgust (other woman). I wouldn’t expect anything less. The point here Roger, is WHY they care enough to give these looks. WHY would a perfect stranger take such an intense interest in what I do with my sexlife with other people? Whether it is with a prostitute, or simply someone who looks like one. The men's response speaks for itself (read every post on this site if you don't understand). If you asked the woman why, I'm sure the typical response would be something along the lines of "paying for sex is disgusting" or "It's immoral". While, in all likelihood, she has at one point or another (if not all the time) use her own sexuality to obtain something from her partner (other than money). Be it an object (car, house, ring, etc...), attitude adjustment, or dominance in the relationship (see caligirl's post in the WHY thread). I'm sure even you can see the parallels here. These are some of the reasons I personally take extreme pleasure in those looks. "And before you tell me that you can not tell the difference between a hooker and a “normal” girl…you can! You can dress a BG up in the latest Paris fashions but to the trained eye she is still a BG and always will be" I'm not going to take to much time responding here, as this is a completely narrow minded, asinine statement. Though I'm sure Roger, you would disagree, as you are the leading expert in human nature, and of course you yourself define what is "normal" and what's not in today’s society. Let me say this: I have been dating a Chinese/Thai girl who is currently in school (BU) getting her masters in computer science. She has lived in Thailand all her life and hasn’t any association with prostitution in the least(she’s a virgin). When we go out, we constantly get questioning/disgusted looks from people. Co-workers have questioned me after taking her to a corporate dinner party's where she was from, then asked if she's worked in a brothel before. So you see Roger, you CAN'T JUDGE A BOOK BY IT'S COVER. "I have nothing against these girls" Based on your statements, I tend to disagree. "I would not be seen walking round the Emporium with one" Of course not. I'm sure you would hate to have any type of negative light cast on your flawless carrector. Though I'm not sure this "prostitute" would be seen as one to every single person. Perhaps we should consider having all woman who you classify as a "prostitute" would wear a letter "P" somewhere on there person to clarify. That way the rest of the world would know not to treat those people as human, and make sure to browbeat anyone seen with them. "Nor would I ever consider a serious relationship with one." Too True! These sub-humans are emotionally and physically damaged for life! Why give them the chance, they are unable to love, or show any type of emotional bonding associated with your definition of a "normal" relationship... Right?!? Just my humble opinion Unfortunately, many in the “free world” share your opinion. I don't blame you Roger, I'm sure your simply spouting rederic that was taught to you. That these women are bad, dirty, immoral, sub-human sluts unworthy of "normal" peoples consideration or respect. I respect your opinion. But I think you need to stop following what everyone elts is doing, or has told you, and start finding out for yourself. Stop being a au-tom-a-ton. Your Truly, Siam "Question everything!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted January 25, 2002 Report Share Posted January 25, 2002 quote: Originally posted by SiamIAm: Roger, You posted: "Of course they would give those "same looks" of envy (other men)/disgust (other woman). I wouldn’t expect anything less. The point here Roger, is WHY they care enough to give these looks. WHY would a perfect stranger take such an intense interest These are some of the reasons I personally take extreme pleasure in those looks." Ever considered that the women feel more pity for the girl than hate. Pity that they are in such a country and situation that they have few choices to make some money and resort to prostitution. The guys looks, well, don't for one minute consider that all males share the same views as 95% of those on this board. "So you see Roger, you CAN'T JUDGE A BOOK BY IT'S COVER." Have to disagree on this one, I shared your view when i first arrived in Thailand many years ago. I can usually tell by the girls actions and the way she talks that she is a bar girl. And also "I" know that the girl I am with is not a hooker. Why Should anyone want to get involved in a relationship with a prostitute when there are so many non-prostitutes about????????? "I have nothing against these girls" Based on your statements, I tend to disagree." Well, as I said "I have nothing against these girls" this is true, whether you believe it or not is up to you. "I would not be seen walking round the Emporium with one" "Of course not. I'm sure you would hate to have any type of negative light cast on your flawless carrector." Being a manager in a company that employs over 3,000 Thai people and has many conections in the Bangkok business world then YES you do have to take these things into consideration. The same as I would not walk around my home town with a hooker, maybe you would and that is your decision. However if I was on a 2 week sex holiday my outlook may differ. "Nor would I ever consider a serious relationship with one." Too True! These sub-humans are emotionally and physically damaged for life! Why give them the chance, they are unable to love, or show any type of emotional bonding associated with your definition of a "normal" relationship... Right?!? No, but the odds of a succesful relationship are far less than with a non prostitute. When there is a choice why choose the prostitute??. Some people I agree are not able to form relationships with women and are forced into paying for their relationships. I am lucky not to be one of those. "I'm sure your simply spouting rederic that was taught to you. That these women are bad, dirty, immoral, sub-human sluts unworthy of "normal" peoples consideration or respect" These are MY opinions which have changed drastically over my years spent here. I dont believe in my post that i said any of the above quote and I would not describe fellow human beings in that way so get off your high horse!!! "I respect your opinion." I really don't think that you do... "But I think you need to stop following what everyone else is doing, or has told you, and start finding out for yourself." Ever thought that my reasons for thinking like this are that I HAVE found out for myself???? Some people have to try and justify to others and themselves why they frequent hookers. ...I have no problem with other people seeing prostitute and don't need their justification. I was just trying to offer MY opinion and say that it wasn't for me. Roger [ January 25, 2002: Message edited by: Roger ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Hippie Posted January 25, 2002 Report Share Posted January 25, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Glenn: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by CaliGirl: What's wrong with American women. What? Are we too challenging or complex? Or maybe some of you men have "issues" within yourselves that need to be worked out. And who says american women aren't loving... bs. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gee shes a feminist How Cute!! I'm sure she is only a feminist when it is convient. As far as Western women being to challangeing and complex, many of them think they are, and that is part of the problem. Truth be told, many of them aren't challangeing or complex, just full of themselves and a lot of BS, I really don't need this crap when I am trying to enjoy a date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gummigut Posted January 25, 2002 Report Share Posted January 25, 2002 I believe people who right off "western" women as a whole are truly missing the boat. I think many of the posters in this thread truly reflect themselves by the logic and language that they utilize. To any lurkers, please do not take these posts (nor mine) as representative of the general readership. I think that folks who visit here and extoll the "virtues" of thai women especially when compared to western women are actually pretty sad. Why? Cause most of these folks experiences are solely with bar girls. Now there is nothing wrong with bar girls. And just like among western women, there are truly gems among the bar girls. But by and large it's the business of prostitution by uneducated women who are participating because of the very limited opportunities of advancement in their society. I'm not being a hypocrite because I enjoy a bg's company as the next guy, but let's call a spade a spade. <<burp>> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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